He's here, pictures and all!

actually the percentages are not made up, kammers been here for awhile and keep records off what they breed...by the percentages it is a while:p

tho yeah just saying cross is better than listing the whole thing, but i feel it helps what crosses you have than not knowign what you got

i know that, the kammers have beautiful chameleons and im not bad mouthing them by any means, i just feel like the percentage breakdown is unnecessary, its a cross of like 4+ locales so i think listing the percentages is kind of a moot point, thats all
 
i know that, the kammers have beautiful chameleons and im not bad mouthing them by any means, i just feel like the percentage breakdown is unnecessary, its a cross of like 4+ locales so i think listing the percentages is kind of a moot point, thats all

well for people who like to keep pure lines this is wonderful news. people are taking the time and responsibility to track the lines. i do not see this a moot point. more of a blessing in the chameleon community, striving to do the right thing. separating the pure and the morphs.
 
i know that, the kammers have beautiful chameleons and im not bad mouthing them by any means, i just feel like the percentage breakdown is unnecessary, its a cross of like 4+ locales so i think listing the percentages is kind of a moot point, thats all
I disagree. Knowing the percentages will give you a clue as to what he should ROUGHLY look like.
 
well for people who like to keep pure lines this is wonderful news. people are taking the time and responsibility to track the lines. i do not see this a moot point. more of a blessing in the chameleon community, striving to do the right thing. separating the pure and the morphs.

if its 2 locales crossed or 4, its still a cross...people who keep pure bloodines wouldnt breed it one way or another...like i said, not knocking anyone, just my opinion...to each his own i guess
 
if its 2 locales crossed or 4, its still a cross...people who keep pure bloodines wouldnt breed it one way or another...like i said, not knocking anyone, just my opinion...to each his own i guess

but accidents happen. a whole pure line can be ruined if you accidentally bred what you thought was a pure locale. you know exactly what you are getting if you ever did bred. im sure a lot of us would be pissed if we paid 600 bucks for a nosy faly, and it turns out to be a ambilobe x nosy cross.
 
but accidents happen. a whole pure line can be ruined if you accidentally bred what you thought was a pure locale. its more about keeping track than breeding. you know exactly what you are getting.

actually if you have a cross its always a surprise...just something to think about
 
i dont understand what you mean by that. you just said keeping track was unimportant, and now its a fun surprise?

you said you know exactly what you are getting...you have no idea really what its gonna look like, thats what i was talking about...and im not trying to argue with anyone, i stated my opinion and thats that, no bad mouthing or disrespect to anyone...the point i was trying to make was it doesnt matter if its 37.83% ambilobe 22.17% ambanja 22.5% sambava 17.5% nosy be, that doesnt determine what its gonna look like specifically, its simply just a cross ( more specifically an ambilobe x ambanja x sambava x nosy be cross) i think the percentages are just a tad ridiculous, thats all
 
you said you know exactly what you are getting...you have no idea really what its gonna look like, thats what i was talking about...and im not trying to argue with anyone, i stated my opinion and thats that, no bad mouthing or disrespect to anyone...the point i was trying to make was it doesnt matter if its 37.83% ambilobe 22.17% ambanja 22.5% sambava 17.5% nosy be, that doesnt determine what its gonna look like specifically, its simply just a cross ( more specifically an ambilobe x ambanja x sambava x nosy be cross) i think the percentages are just a tad ridiculous, thats all

got it. but it always is a surprise, even when its not a cross.
 
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