Gargoyle gecko eggs

[Hashtag ChamLife]

So, I've had a gargoyle for around a year. Bought her (obviously a female now) as a baby. While cleaning out her cage I found 4 eggs, and 1 egg shell. Having gone through a few clutches of chameleon eggs now, I can say these eggs totally look viable. I've read that gargoyles are capable or parenthesis (spelling - self reproduction). Anyone have experience with this?

Should I be getting some of my extra bug enclosures ready for gargoyle babies or will these eggs eventually implode?

TIA

 

[kinyonga]

The word you're looking for is parthenogenesis.

Is the shell empty?
If so, have you looked for a baby in the cage?

 

[Persnickety Parson's]

Well I don't give up on eggs until they are rotten so I say incubate and see what happens.

 

[Hashtag ChamLife]

The word you're looking for is parthenogenesis.

Is the shell empty?
If so, have you looked for a baby in the cage?

Lol, yes that's the term, thanks!

I did have 1 empty egg but no sign of a hatchling. I did quite a thorough search after finding the empty - both of eggs and babies.

I have placed them in my egg cooler. Will see if anything happens.

 

[TayloredExotics]

I keep mourning geckos, a confirmed (and solely) parthenogenic species. Unfortunately, if you didn't find a baby, it probably became a snack... I remove eggs if possible, or grab the babies as soon as the hatch if they're glued somewhere I can't. Good luck with the other eggs, though! Bonus baby gecko pics!

 

[kinyonga]

I was wondering if the empty egg's baby had become a snack.


You said..." I keep mourning geckos, a confirmed (and solely) parthenogenic species"....what do you mean solely?

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Unfortunately, if you didn't find a baby, it probably became a snack...

I was just wondering that myself.

 

[kinyonga]

This is interesting...and something I wondered about since I knew there were males of the species seen...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0944200608000287

 

[TayloredExotics]

You said..." I keep mourning geckos, a confirmed (and solely) parthenogenic species"....what do you mean solely?

Mourning geckos' only mode of reproduction is parthenogenesis; there's no known instance of males. I call them my clone army

Edit: I stand corrected; apparently some males do exist

 

[TayloredExotics]

This is interesting...and something I wondered about since I knew there were males of the species seen...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0944200608000287

Wow, I had no idea! I wonder if they're fertile? I know in a lot of phasmids, 'sort of' male specimens are occasionally born, but they're usually infertile and short-lived

Edit: I need to read more before replying
From the article: "Because of the high amount of deformed spermatozoa and possibly uncontrolled loss of genetic material in structurally normal, but aneuploid spermatozoa we conclude that these otherwise perfect males are infertile, thus constituting another example of gametic sterility."

 

[kinyonga]

Wow, I had no idea! I wonder if they're fertile? I know in a lot of phasmids, 'sort of' male specimens are occasionally born, but they're usually infertile and short-lived

Edit: I need to read more before replying
From the article: "Because of the high amount of deformed spermatozoa and possibly uncontrolled loss of genetic material in structurally normal, but aneuploid spermatozoa we conclude that these otherwise perfect males are infertile, thus constituting another example of gametic sterility."

I was just going to post that!

I had mourning geckos for years.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I gotta learn to type faster.