Furcifer lateralis luck!

Shinybeetles

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I had amazing luck today, I ordered a pair of carpet chameleons which arrived this morning by special courier. I opened the box and the female was surrounded by no less than 16 eggs!

All in tact and can only have been laid within the last 12 hours (sometime). So I've put them in damp moss (not covered) while I wait for vermiculite to arrive. The moss is damp but not soggy. They are currently at a temperature of 31c which I think is maybe a bit on the hight side? can anytone give me any good hints as to rearing them, I have had some advice from the net regarding diapuse.

Thanks!
 
:eek:wow! some luck indeed. . .well i won 20$ on a scratch off lottery ticket yesterday. does that count? anywho good luck w/ the eggs! cant wait to see some pics:D
 
What a bargain! :D Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'Buy One Get One Free!' :D Good luck with the eggs. Maybe the stress of shipping made her drop them. My Mum bought a guinea pig once that turned out to be pregnant so she got four for the price of one! :D
 
What luck, the temp you have them is way too hot. They should be kept at a constant 20 degrees Celsius (68f). plus or minus a couple degrees.
 
HI, I'm confused as I keep hearing completely different things (see link below):

http://www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/flateralis.html

I'll lower the temperature, do you think a day at this temperature could have done any harm?

The some of the information on adcham is rather outdated. (It is being updated) I have heard from successful breeders that it is best to stay in the cooler range. 68 -72 F.
If at all possible if the are CB/CH matching the temps from the breeder can prove to be beneficial. Higher temperatures could result in a longer period of time before they hatch. Carpets (f. lateralis) are found in a broad range as a result the eggs are incubated in nature at different ranges. Unless you know where they come from it is hard to know what temp is best. Either way 85f is too hot.

I don't think a day may have done much harm but it can cause problems , it would be best to correct the temps ASAP.

I am incubating f. lat lateralis (carpet chameleon) eggs in the 68-70 range currently.


EDIT : Too funy I just read the Adcham site and alot of what I said are on it. :D I may have learned a little from there at one point. :D
 
Let's hope those eggs are fertile! Surprising she laid without an egg laying medium?
 
Ryan, if the eggs are either infertile or I've managed to screw it up this time, how long before I will know, do they go rotten after a week?
 
If you get babies, I call largest! :p Kidding, I have no clue how to take care of them, or have a place for them.
 
Ryan, if the eggs are either infertile or I've managed to screw it up this time, how long before I will know, do they go rotten after a week?

I think the amount of time is random. I would say you are safer than not if they are still good after 2 months but even then you never know. I have had some of my eggs go bad 3 months in.

They good news is she will lay again and probably pretty soon. Once that motor is running ,,,:rolleyes:

Make sure you have a bin in the cage at all times so she can lay if she needs to. I was told by an experienced keeper that it may help if you put a rooted plant in the bin. Just off to one side. It seemed to work for me. These little guys are very shy. I had a problem with a girl who became egg bound , it was a result of fused eggs.
 
What luck, the temp you have them is way too hot. They should be kept at a constant 20 degrees Celsius (68f). plus or minus a couple degrees.

I am going to have to second just about all of Ryan's advice here (in fact, I didn't see any that I did not agree with).

We have dealt with a lot of carpet eggs over the years, and have found hatch rates to decline significantly when the incubation temps hovered in the mid 70's. We have had far greater success when temps were kept in the mid to upper 60's throughout. I do not consider myself an expert with these eggs, as valid comparative results take years and many many clutches, so as to adequately cover contol groups and test parameters. But I am very confident in saying that they need temps lower than what is the norm for pardalis and calyptratus, by approx. 8-10 degrees F. Hope all goes well.
 
put the eggs into as plastic box on damp moss, then put that into a poly box with a heat mat under it (the plastic box with the eggs was raised off the floor - and had a lid with small air holes). I had to go to work, when I got back the temperature which had seemed to hover around 31c may have gone up as high as 37! Of course this is way too high, it may have been like this for about 7 hours. Since reading the advice here I have them now at about 21/23c, would any of you say that I heve damaged the eggs beyond repair at this early stage or could they be ok? The temperature inside the actual tub was perhaps lower as there was moisture in side?
 
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.... would any of you say that I heve damaged the eggs beyond repair at this early stage or could they be ok? The temperature inside the actual tub was perhaps lower as there was moisture in side?

Time will tell.
 
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