Force feeding and hydrating

[PetNcs]

I asked petr what data is behind his "gutload with nothing but bee pollen" and his response to me was to not be rude to him

As for this thread, it's informative and petr shows his skill at doing a four hand job with only two. ?

it is a lie
I explained in thousands if words my position to it

some things do not need researxh if rhey are a surd

or please find me a scholarly articles. On the finction of brain in cows based of feeding them grilled pork witb barbecues sauce

 

[PetNcs]

Not rude. Sorry. Cheating was the wrong word. "make it look "easy" by using a chameleon that is very cooperative and opens its mouth when you touch its head". Its not fun to pull down the mouth to put in the medicine. After a few days my chameleons know whats coming, and seal their mouths shut.

what dofference does it make to jnderstand the logic and mecbanics of the method?
Do it better than me, make it ideal, J will gladly praisr yoj amd not find itrelevant flaws instead of
Acknowledging jt

 

[PetNcs]

I respect @PetNcs and all of the many contributions he has made to chameleons and their keeping. I look forward to and am interested in what information he is sharing with us in doing better as keepers. I simply have seen too many times in too many of his posts where one small word or sentence in taken in the wrong context and a small war ensues. This is done on both sides. I am just tired of it and spoke my piece as soon as I saw what has been a trigger for it in the past.
I have been PMing with Petr today and hope I was articulate enough to clarify the statements I posted earlier. He has assured me that he has no bias and his only interest is in herpetoculture. As we all know, he is very passionate about chameleons and what he has made his life’s work. I have offered him my apologies if I have offended or disrespected him. That was not my intent.
I’m just tired of the bickering getting in the way of learning. So please, let’s all try to have polite and respectful conversation with Petr and each other.

I accept all apologies gladly and am
Ready to share all my onowledge as ai do for three dexades aleeady

 

[jacksonchamnew]

That is what a veil cask is for. LOL

 

[PetNcs]

That is what a veil cask is for. LOL

of course,anyone in doubt thatvitnis merely a handle? LOL

but frankly, do people know what is it for and why it evolved like that?!

 

[Highway61]

it is a lie
I explained in thousands if words my position to it

some things do not need researxh if rhey are a surd

or please find me a scholarly articles. On the finction of brain in cows based of feeding them grilled pork witb barbecues sauce

For someone who "doesn't sugar coat anything", you have very thin skin and a short memory

 

[PetNcs]

For someone who "doesn't sugar coat anything", you have very thin skin and a short memory

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itnis unworrhy to answer, but can you st least comprehend that you deliver a proof that younaretelling a lie?

„I asked petr what data is behind his "gutload with nothing but bee pollen" and his response to me was to not be rude to him “
THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE

and the text younposted clearly shows that I did not say to you not to be rude.
I agreed with you and gave yoj an answer.
I made a statement intended to refer You to search for my massive explanations on that topic in repeated threads
And asked you not to attack me

csn you stop ridiculing me and start to read what I write and Do not wist my words and do not say what I have not said?

 

[saradoggy10]

itnis unworrhy to answer, but can you st least comprehend that you deliver a proof that younaretelling a lie?

„I asked petr what data is behind his "gutload with nothing but bee pollen" and his response to me was to not be rude to him “
THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE

and the text younposted clearly shows that I did not say to you not to be rude.
I agreed with you and gave yoj an answer.
I made a statement intended to refer You to search for my massive explanations on that topic in repeated threads
And asked you not to attack me

csn you stop ridiculing me and start to read what I write and Do not wist my words and do not say what I have not said?

Well do you have the data?

 

[Highway61]

Well do you have the data?

I asked the same and he accused me of attacking him. In pubic. I said rude because my own memory if faulty but isn't it rude to attack someone?

 

[saradoggy10]

I asked the same and he accused me of attacking him. In pubic. I said rude because my own memory if faulty but isn't it rude to attack someone?

I respect scientists and hard research but it's difficult to take them seriously when they get offended when one asks for research

 

[MissSkittles]

of course,anyone in doubt thatvitnis merely a handle? LOL

but frankly, do people know what is it for and why it evolved like that?!

Why has the veiled evolved a prominent casque?

 

[Beman]

Why has the veiled evolved a prominent casque?

I would like to know this as well.

 

[CasqueAbove]

Why has the veiled evolved a prominent casque?

It is most likely, like many other animals, duel purpose. It is always difficult to say why an animal develops certain traits. Look a loins mane. Did it develop to advertise to females, or to protect in fights. We know it serves both purposes so it it would be nearly impossible to say why the development starts.

My personal opinion is that the cask is primarily for display to attract mates, and show to strength to claim territories. I would guess in their world size matters.

 

[saradoggy10]

It is most likely, like many other animals, duel purpose. It is always difficult to say why an animal develops certain traits. Look a loins mane. Did it develop to advertise to females, or to protect in fights. We know it serves both purposes so it it would be nearly impossible to say why the development starts.

My personal opinion is that the cask is primarily for display to attract mates, and show to strength to claim territories. I would guess in their world size matters.

I always viewed it as a leaf. Veileds, in my opinion, are some of the best at camouflage and the casque only helps add that leaf like protrusion

 

[nightanole]

It is most likely, like many other animals, duel purpose. It is always difficult to say why an animal develops certain traits. Look a loins mane. Did it develop to advertise to females, or to protect in fights. We know it serves both purposes so it it would be nearly impossible to say why the development starts.

My personal opinion is that the cask is primarily for display to attract mates, and show to strength to claim territories. I would guess in their world size matters.

its like 22's on your car. "look i have so many resources i can blow some of it making a huge thing on my head and not even care"

 

[CasqueAbove]

its like 22's on your car. "look i have so many resources i can blow some of it making a huge thing on my head and not even care"

That is probably a lot of what it means too lol.