female jackson cham...
- Thread starter erik775
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...is it the same as taking care of a veiled???i need some help...please...on haow to take care of her...
cantgetagoodsn
Avid Member
for the most part it is the same. Though, The temp should be 82-84 in basking and 70-72 elsewhere with a drop in temp at night. Supplementing is a lot less too. I have been seeing mostly (and what im doing now) is:
Calcium without vit. D3 every other feeding.
Calcium with vit. D3 twice a month.
Multivitamins without vit. A once a month.
female jacksons dont lay eggs they give live birth, so you dont need to make a burial site for her.
that's what i know off the top of my head, it would be smart to fill out the help form though at the top of the this forum...
Calcium without vit. D3 every other feeding.
Calcium with vit. D3 twice a month.
Multivitamins without vit. A once a month.
female jacksons dont lay eggs they give live birth, so you dont need to make a burial site for her.
that's what i know off the top of my head, it would be smart to fill out the help form though at the top of the this forum...
cantgetagoodsn
Avid Member
the schedule i posted above is what most jacksons owners on here use, including myself...
ijmccollum
New Member
They are a montane spc. requiring lower temps and higher humidity. A temp gradient 70-85 is the general, make sure there is a gradient. Also, a temp drop at night is good -- ambient house temps should be okay unless you keep the house below 65F. I mist twice daily, heavy in the am and light in the PM so humidity ranges from 50-75% depending on spray schedule. I also keep a med shallow dish to help retain humidity. They require UVB (5.0), Ca dust ~twice weekly, and Ca w/D3 ~ 1.5 mo (same with vits and minerals). Take great care not to over supplement and watch the phos and ProFormed Vit A levels (I am pretty unknowledgable on this item).
xanthoman is pretty much our resident Jackson's person but there are some other very knowledgable person(s) on the forum too. Have a look around.
xanthoman is pretty much our resident Jackson's person but there are some other very knowledgable person(s) on the forum too. Have a look around.
cantgetagoodsn
Avid Member
you wait a whole month and a half for cal with d3? hrmm, maybe i am dusting too consistently.
ijmccollum
New Member
She get as much natural sun as I can get to her....winter is coming though.
Cainschams
New Member
http://chameleonnews.com/10JulManchen.html
READ THIS!!!
As dusting goes. You really want to strive for a great gutloading regimen and have the supplements do what they are intended to do, supplement. They are more susceptible to over supplementation issues. I keep all montane species and my dusting schedule is just random. I guess sometimes my adults get 2 to 3 very light dustings a week but then again I only feed 3 and sometimes 4 times a week. I do not use a multivitamin. I dust with plain calcium most feedings and calcium with D3 very light around once a month when not being housed outside. One thing to watch for is gular edema. If the throat area is swelling then cutting down on the supplements and upping the water intake is recommended.
Cantgetagoodsn said.
I also notice quite a few jacksonii with edema.
ijmccollum said.
I wouldnt worry about it getting below 65degrees. Actually I wouldnt worry about it getting down into the 40s as long as they are able to warm up to optimal temperature the next day. My animals have been exposed to these conditions many of times.
READ THIS!!!
As dusting goes. You really want to strive for a great gutloading regimen and have the supplements do what they are intended to do, supplement. They are more susceptible to over supplementation issues. I keep all montane species and my dusting schedule is just random. I guess sometimes my adults get 2 to 3 very light dustings a week but then again I only feed 3 and sometimes 4 times a week. I do not use a multivitamin. I dust with plain calcium most feedings and calcium with D3 very light around once a month when not being housed outside. One thing to watch for is gular edema. If the throat area is swelling then cutting down on the supplements and upping the water intake is recommended.
Cantgetagoodsn said.
I also notice quite a few jacksonii with edema.
ijmccollum said.
I wouldnt worry about it getting below 65degrees. Actually I wouldnt worry about it getting down into the 40s as long as they are able to warm up to optimal temperature the next day. My animals have been exposed to these conditions many of times.
ijmccollum
New Member
Well that is good to know, esp in the event the heat goes off. Think I might get a fuel run heater though 'cause it gets pretty cold here.
And I gotta admit that ChiChi was healthier when I didn't supplement so much. Then I let her go gravid and it all went to h3ll! Now she's trying to recover and probably will not 100%.
Good to know there is another montane lover on here.
wendyeeeo
Established Member
I've had a female Jackson's since May. I think she's at least a year old, but I'm not totally sure. I LOVE my girl so much, which is why I wanted to share the health issue I'm dealing with right now. While a Jackson's Cham will birth live young, I now know they still can become "gravid" and/or "egg bound" in the sense that they have to be seen by a vet and could potentially die. Mine has had three vet visits the past few weeks because she wasn't passing the "slugs" that had been her internal eggs. The vet gave her injections that did finally pass a bunch of it, but now she's got some sort of impaction that we're not sure about. She's not eating, not really moving, and not drinking much. I've got her on meds for internal inflamation and we go back to the vet tomorrow. If she doesn't get better (which I don't see happening) then we are looking at a full hysterectomy as the final option. It's a lot of money to go through all of this, but it's the committment we make with our pets. I'm scared and pretty much set to do whatever it takes to try and save her. I just wanted to mention my situation because all I ever read before getting her was "Jackson's don't lay eggs and you don't have to worry about them getting egg-bound." And that is just not the case at all. I am sure you will love your girl and be as attached as I am in a short time! They really are the sweetest things.
ijmccollum
New Member
Sorry to hear about your little girl. They are such gentle souls it is hard not to get so attached. And thank you for sharing, it is good to be reminded that even live bearers have issues even if they are not gravid. Thoughts are with you and wish her well soon.
wendyeeeo
Established Member
Thank you so much for your nice comments. I was so upset last night. I'm happy to report, however, that this morning Astrid passed some nasty looking slugs and slimy stuff! She's looking much better and is alert, and I'm hoping to get her to start eating for me after work. I've delayed her vet visit by a few days, but she will still go back for a re-check no matter how well she does. Now I'm starting to focus on being more prepared for the time my female veiled is ready to start laying. That girl has grown a ton in a short time, so I may be dealing with her egg laying sooner than I'd hoped!
