Chameleonmaster
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My Elliot's gave birth 3 weeks ago and I've noticed that around 4-5 of the 13 will close one eye every once in awhile. I don't know if it's an eye infection or if they're sick?
Elliot's Babies closing one eye
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Chameleonmaster
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Here's a pic
coldbloodedAL
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Not a good sign... please fill out " the form" in regards to the care for all of them.
Chameleonmaster
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
medium exo terra
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
regular house bulbs for heat source and zilla florescent
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
the basking is about 79 degrees and the floor is about 74
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
anywhere from 30-70 percent humidity, i mist to bring humidity up
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
no live plants
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
the cage is located on top of my dresser, isnt near any fans or vents.
Location - Where are you geographically located? michigan
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
4-5 of my elliots babies are closing one eye for a few mins at a time. why?
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
medium exo terra
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
regular house bulbs for heat source and zilla florescent
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
the basking is about 79 degrees and the floor is about 74
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
anywhere from 30-70 percent humidity, i mist to bring humidity up
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
no live plants
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
the cage is located on top of my dresser, isnt near any fans or vents.
Location - Where are you geographically located? michigan
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
4-5 of my elliots babies are closing one eye for a few mins at a time. why?
coldbloodedAL
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You missed half the questions...
Chameleonmaster
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Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? T.Elliot 13 babies 3weeks old been in my care for 3 weeks
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? I handled them once to clean the cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? They're eating fruit toys and recently added in pinheads, have no clue on how many maybe 30 fruit flushing at a time. There is a gutload like penitent butter and I stick it to the sides of the container. I feed them 1-2 times a day.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? I just started supplementing only with calcium no d3 with the pinhead crickets that's everyday.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? I have a stopper and I mist 3-4 times a day and i see them drink all the time.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. It's black with a white tip everything looks normal with the dropping. They haven't been tested for parasites because they were just born.
Sorry I don't know how I missed the top part
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? I handled them once to clean the cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? They're eating fruit toys and recently added in pinheads, have no clue on how many maybe 30 fruit flushing at a time. There is a gutload like penitent butter and I stick it to the sides of the container. I feed them 1-2 times a day.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? I just started supplementing only with calcium no d3 with the pinhead crickets that's everyday.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? I have a stopper and I mist 3-4 times a day and i see them drink all the time.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. It's black with a white tip everything looks normal with the dropping. They haven't been tested for parasites because they were just born.
Sorry I don't know how I missed the top part
coldbloodedAL
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For the most part, everything looks good...
How often are you supplementing? I wouldnt supplement with plain calcium more than 3 times a week VERY lighlty. Rotate cal D3 and multi once a week.
I would keep humidity >50% at all times.
Is this the same exo terra the mom was in? If so, did you thoroughly disinfect it before keeping the babies in it?
How often are you cleaning the cage?
How often are you supplementing? I wouldnt supplement with plain calcium more than 3 times a week VERY lighlty. Rotate cal D3 and multi once a week.
I would keep humidity >50% at all times.
Is this the same exo terra the mom was in? If so, did you thoroughly disinfect it before keeping the babies in it?
How often are you cleaning the cage?
Cainschams
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Id go with only supplement 2 times a week very lightly. You can see the neck is a little chubby in that pic but not bad. Its possible they are getting walked on and maybe the eyes have been damaged. I would separate the ones that are doing it. That is about all the suggestions I can give
coldbloodedAL
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Good eye Cain, neck swelling can also come from bacterial infections as well. But that just looks more like oversupping.
Chameleonmaster
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It can't be over supplementing because I've only done it a couple times I think it might be from when they crawl on each other or a bacteria?
This is the exo terra mom was in but when I took mom out I cleaned the entire cage including the plants.
This is the exo terra mom was in but when I took mom out I cleaned the entire cage including the plants.
Chameleonmaster
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Anyone else?
Anyone else?
mcleodschams
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When you cleaned the tank what did you use to steralize?
Chachachameleon
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It definitely is not over nutrifying, you should be giving them calcium every feed its normal. sometimes my guy does it to and ive had him for 3 months i was worried at first but then he just kept doin it every now and then. sometimes when hes basking he does or when i stare at him lol i dont think its anything to worry about unless you see abnormal qualities about the eye
coldbloodedAL
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Only a couple times since they were born?
I would do as Cain suggested and separate them.
If he really has only supplemented as he says, no, it is not likely over supplementing. BUT, these are montane chameleons who are much more sensitive to supplementing than our more common veileds and panthers. Big difference.
Cainschams
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One would be in worse problems if they took your advice for supplementing ellioti or a lot of other montanes if not all. They are very prone to over supplementation while low land species are not as prone.
Chameleonmaster
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It seems only the darker colored ones close their eye, the more grayish ones are healthy and not closing their eye.
Chameleonmaster
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Alex, I clean their cage about once a week. When I took mom out I used scrubbing bubbles to clean the tank and leaves.
Cainschams
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Could be part of the problem. With 17 of them in there that is a lot of poop! They could be rubbing their eyes on leaves that have the poop on them. I would at least spot clean once or twice a day.
Chameleonmaster
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Ok I will spot clean. Could it be a possibility of eye infection or would that be both eyes?
coldbloodedAL
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I agree.. One chameleon almost poops too much to clean once a week.
It could be any infection. Closing eyes can mean many things... But this is fairly likely imo. They're too small to take to a vet really so this is about all we have to go on.
