OK-leather glove update. My female veiled bit me through the glove-a very hard brings tears to your eyes pinch on my ring finger. While I held her, my husband had to pry her incredibly well gripped feet from her vine. She is the meanest thing alive! She lunges and hisses. We did nothing different with her than any of the others, but she is just feisty to her very core and there is just not another way to get her out without her getting hurt. All is well now, and she is back in her freshly cleaned cage.