Does anybody know this picture ?

[eisentrauti]

Hello,

does anybody know this picture ? Somebody claimed it to be Trioceros feae but for me it seems like a skinny montium male.

Best regards
Benny

 

[Syn]

From the dorsal, it looks like a quadricornis?

Not a lot, but a little.. Hmm.

Perhaps a female?
http://www.chameleonnews.com/images/wierder/2.jpg

But I do see where you are coming from w/the Montium idea.

 

[Anilr16]

Agree with Syn.

 

[jack29]

i'd also say montium because of the yellow stripe on his body.. but it would be easier if there was all the head!!

 

[Anilr16]

A cameroon two horned chameleon?

 

[eisentrauti]

From the dorsal, it looks like a quadricornis?

Not a lot, but a little.. Hmm.

Perhaps a female?
http://www.chameleonnews.com/images/wierder/2.jpg

The pic you have linked is a wiedersheimi It's definitly not a quadricornis

 

[luevelvet]

Not sure why, but my instincts want to say it's Trioceros feae, but the picture isn't that great to really compare. Any better pics to review?

Luis

 

[Syn]

Darn you google! Lmao! That's the second time today it's given me a bad chameleon picture. THEN ITS A WIEDERSHEIMI!

Oh I feel like an idiot right now lol.

 

[eisentrauti]

Not sure why, but my instincts want to say it's Trioceros feae, but the picture isn't that great to really compare. Any better pics to review?

Luis

Unfortunately not. Beside this, I just now the ones on adcham. I think it's impossible without a complete shot of the head

 

[Dean Pulcini]

Although closely related to montium in color and size that is feae I have a picture in one of my books that looks just like that.

 

[jack29]

I think it's impossible without a complete shot of the head

i agree with you!! but my question is.. why are you so interested in this photo?? new arrive?? ahahah!!

 

[eisentrauti]

Hi Dean,

what's the book called ?

 

[Malicious]

Do you know what it is Benny?

 

[Dean Pulcini]

I believe it's called The Chameleon Handbook which I cant find at the moment but it has good info and great illustration of uncommon and common chameleons.

 

[Lizardlover]

Dean is right, im looking at the pic right now strait from the book.

 

[Jerm]

Guys i'm pretty sure that it is a C. trioceros cristatus or Crested chameleon from cameroon. Weidershimi doesn't have the sail at the base of the tail.

 

[Lizardlover]

no definetly a Feae, sailfin or cristatus would have a larger sail all the way down.

 

[merumontanus]

Definitely not cristatus or quadricornis. Clearly.

It definitely has body features of feae, but it's the scalation that makes me think it's not montium.

Too bad there's not a rostrum shot!

Fabián

 

[eisentrauti]

To come back to scientific names it is definitly a Trioceros feae or montium, NOT cristatus, quadricornis, wiedersheimi or other member of the cristatus group !

 

[Chris Anderson]

Syn & Anilr16 - Generally when someone is looking for ID help, they don't need people who don't know the first thing about IDing these cham species to throw out complete guesses. This animal looks nothing like a wiedersheimi, quadricornis or cristatus. Additionally, if you knew the first thing about T. feae you would understand that this species is extremely similar to T. montium and its of no help if you guess T. montium without even knowing what morphological features differentiate T. feae from T. montium.

Benny - I just checked out my first and second edition of Francois Le Berre's "The New Chameleon Handbook" and as mentioned, this photo is in the book labeled as "Chamaeleon montium feae". The coloration of this animal is indicative of a male rather then female and the photo in these books includes the tip of the nose. The nose lacks rostral horns and thus, it appears to be correctly identified as T. feae. Since this is a published photo, however, and not a photo of an animal actually taken by this guy in Cameroon, I would not say the fact he has this photo indicates he is able to supply true T. feae as opposed to just T. montium.

Chris