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i just feel bad that i was given the wrong information from the pet store, they said everything i was doing was right, i wanna make sure kiwi is happy (her name).
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Hydra_cosplay
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That's an adorable name xD
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where would i even get the other bugs? i know in the pet store they have dead roaches and silk worms as treats and stuff but i wouldn’t wanna get a whole container of worms to feed once in a while, what other insects can i feed daily? also isn’t 4 feet a little too tall? i saw a size that was a bit smaller, around 3 ft tall, and if i get a mesh one how do i keep up humidity?
Anisa.corp
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Actually if you can find silk worms you can feed those to your cham everyday but all other worms are just treats this is a list of feeders for you
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Pearl Fields
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You can order bugs online. Also 4 feet is NOT too tall, the bigger the better
Pearl Fields
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I would recommend a xlarge reptibreeze. The minimum size for an adult veiled, will have plenty airflow, affordable
lizcrespo93
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Places like petco, petsmart and pet supermarket sell crickets, superworms, calciworms, waxworms, and hornworms. You can also buy online. Checkout the site sponsors here, they are all good choices for feeders. Chameleons do not eat dead bugs, they are attracted to movement. All bugs should be alive. 2x2x4 is the minimum recommended size enclosure. You can keep humidity up by screening your sides of the enclosure with shower curtains. Live plants also help keep humidity up. I recommend you watch Neptune the chameleon on youtube. The videos are super informative and are done by our very own @Gingero.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3n4S2GRkOGfk2U8-xhaw6Q
MissSkittles
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Adding to what has already been said, colored lights aren’t good for sensitive chameleon eyes.
Veileds are plant nibblers, so you want to make sure whatever plants you use are safe. Pothos is a favorite. Here’s a safe plant list. https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/ While at that site, do check out all of the resources there. You’ll not only learn the what and how, but the why of cham keeping.
Eventually your little girl will be laying eggs whether mated or not. As she starts getting around 5-6 months you want to keep her temps no higher than 80* and start cutting back slowly on her feedings. Start first reducing the amount of feeders and then gradually feed every other day. My fully mature females are fed 3-4 med sized feeders 3 times a week. By the time she is about 10 months old, that is what your girl should be fed. This helps reduce the frequency in which they lay as well as the clutch size. (Plus risks of becoming egg bound). Around the time that she starts showing some pretty colors all the time and is maybe restless (receptive stage), she’ll need a lay bin as a permanent part of her enclosure. Is just a plastic tub about 10-12” square/rectangle filled about 8” with washed play sand kept moist enough to hold a tunnel without collapsing. There’s plenty of time for that though.
My one lady was always a muddy color. Once I moved her into a 2x2x4’ enclosure, she became bright and stunning.
Veileds are plant nibblers, so you want to make sure whatever plants you use are safe. Pothos is a favorite. Here’s a safe plant list. https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/ While at that site, do check out all of the resources there. You’ll not only learn the what and how, but the why of cham keeping.
Eventually your little girl will be laying eggs whether mated or not. As she starts getting around 5-6 months you want to keep her temps no higher than 80* and start cutting back slowly on her feedings. Start first reducing the amount of feeders and then gradually feed every other day. My fully mature females are fed 3-4 med sized feeders 3 times a week. By the time she is about 10 months old, that is what your girl should be fed. This helps reduce the frequency in which they lay as well as the clutch size. (Plus risks of becoming egg bound). Around the time that she starts showing some pretty colors all the time and is maybe restless (receptive stage), she’ll need a lay bin as a permanent part of her enclosure. Is just a plastic tub about 10-12” square/rectangle filled about 8” with washed play sand kept moist enough to hold a tunnel without collapsing. There’s plenty of time for that though.
My one lady was always a muddy color. Once I moved her into a 2x2x4’ enclosure, she became bright and stunning.
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so from what i’m reading from everyone, i need a bigger tank, preferably a mesh one, i should switch so silk worms or different ones rather than meal worms, my humidity should be around 50 and i need real plants?
Hydra_cosplay
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That's the jist of it. I'd get the bigger enclosure and proper lighting down first. Then you can start piecing together getting the other stuff.
30-50%max I really feel like you kind of got blasted with more information then you were ready to fully understand since you were not given the details to understand it all. Do the husbandry program here... https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/
Go through every single module. It will help you fully understand. Then when you have questions ask them here in the forum and we will help you.
Here is your species specific info https://chameleonacademy.com/veiled-chameleon-care/
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hey there again! i just ordered kiwi a new tank which should be there in two days (its a 16x16x30 which is a big upgrade) i was thinking about getting a live plant for her tank but not sure which one is safe for her, she is a 4 month old veiled chameleon, any suggestions?
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also i know a 4ft tall is recommended but my chameleon is really not yhat big and will probably barely grow more since she is a female veiled, also it would be harder for me to maintain a larger tank so i went with the 30 inch, i hope that is still okay for a female veiled?
PabloTheCham
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If 4ft tall was recommended, why do you ask if it is okay you got a version that is 18 inches smaller then what is recommended?
MissSkittles
Chameleon Enthusiast
The minimum recommended size for an adult veiled is 2x2x4’. Are you planning on buying another enclosure in a couple of months? Would it help if I show you the difference between the 16x16x30” and the 2x2x4’? I keep my lady veileds in big enclosures and they do seem to enjoy having the space. I think of it as like us living in a closet vs living in an average sized home.
Anisa.corp
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The new screen cage is much better although eventually you will want to upgrade but for now save your money for everything else you will need
Anisa.corp
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Also good tall plants for chameleons are ficus trees,umbrella trees, and i personally love money trees but you should know some plants are very hard to keep alive since they need a lot of light
Hydra_cosplay
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is this on toxic in any way?
