Cham falling

Leighqt

Member
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Ambilobe, Age approx 8- 9mths , in my care from about 3mth
  • Handling - Comes tofront of cageto come out, daily to every other day, just made a small freerange for him, In good weather he likes to sit on a small Treein Garden
  • Feeding - Coach roach, crickets, gutload with mango, carrot, kale
  • Supplements - Calcium every feed, calcium with D3 twice a month, nutri vitamins every Third
  • Watering - Misting technique about 2 min per time, am home every day so when I see Humidity has dropped,
  • Fecal Description - Brown , White Urates,
  • History - Purchased from a reptile shop, discussed my issue with owner who once confirmed I had recently upgraded the bulb ( he knew I wanted too) said it should be ok, looked at pics of him said Growth etc ok, could not see any sign of MBD,

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Glass with mesh ventilation 2ft by 3ft width
  • Lighting - Zoo med T5 light across top of cage 6% uv, Komodo basking dome with basking bulb
  • Temperature - Komodo digital, 26 - 30 c,
  • Humidity - Komodo digital min 50 c - 70 - 80 c, Misting daily
  • Plants - Combined Real and Fake
  • Placement - corner of room, higher level, no vents etc
  • Location - Wales UK
Plenty of vines, plants etc
Grip firm
Not shown in images, but to the bottom right I have added another walk way.
Claws all intact to each foot

Current Problem -Cham being clumsy ,seems to fall fairly often. I am going to take to vet for a once over but are there any obvious Husbandry issues.
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JacksJill

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Staff member
The most common cause of poor coordination is MBD but I can't spot anything in your husbandry that would be the cause if your lights are new enough. What do you mean by every third on the vitamins, week, day, month?
Less common but another possible causes are poisoning from your feeders eating moldy grain esp. crickets, a heavy parasite load with parasites migrating through the central nervous system or a tumor. Hopefully your vet can get to the source of his problem.
 

CamoChameleonsHuman

Chameleon Enthusiast
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Ambilobe, Age approx 8- 9mths , in my care from about 3mth
  • Handling - Comes tofront of cageto come out, daily to every other day, just made a small freerange for him, In good weather he likes to sit on a small Treein Garden
  • Feeding - Coach roach, crickets, gutload with mango, carrot, kale
Try adding more of a variety of feeders and switch up your gutload every now and again. I'd also suggest adding Bee Pollen and a quality commercial gutload like Repashy Bug Burger/Superload or Cricket Crack. See attached careguides.
  • Supplements - Calcium every feed, calcium with D3 twice a month, nutri vitamins every Third
Brand of all 3 supplements?
  • Watering - Misting technique about 2 min per time, am home every day so when I see Humidity has dropped,
  • Fecal Description - Brown , White Urates,
  • History - Purchased from a reptile shop, discussed my issue with owner who once confirmed I had recently upgraded the bulb ( he knew I wanted too) said it should be ok, looked at pics of him said Growth etc ok, could not see any sign of MBD,
I think there's a translation issue here not sure what you're quite getting at?

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Glass with mesh ventilation 2ft by 3ft width
  • Lighting - Zoo med T5 light across top of cage 6% uv, Komodo basking dome with basking bulb
  • Temperature - Komodo digital, 26 - 30 c,
  • Humidity - Komodo digital min 50 c - 70 - 80 c, Misting daily
  • Plants - Combined Real and Fake
What kind of real plants?

  • Placement - corner of room, higher level, no vents etc
  • Location - Wales UK
Plenty of vines, plants etc
Grip firm
Not shown in images, but to the bottom right I have added another walk way.
Claws all intact to each foot

Current Problem -Cham being clumsy ,seems to fall fairly often. I am going to take to vet for a once over but are there any obvious Husbandry issues.

I feel this is a good idea. Just to be on the safe side.

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Leighqt

Member
The most common cause of poor coordination is MBD but I can't spot anything in your husbandry that would be the cause if your lights are new enough. What do you mean by every third on the vitamins, week, day, month?
Less common but another possible causes are poisoning from your feeders eating moldy grain esp. crickets, a heavy parasite load with parasites migrating through the central nervous system or a tumor. Hopefully your vet can get to the source of his problem.


Sorry I meant to say, every 3 weeks for Calc with D3
 

Leighqt

Member
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Ambilobe, Age approx 8- 9mths , in my care from about 3mth
  • Handling - Comes tofront of cageto come out, daily to every other day, just made a small freerange for him, In good weather he likes to sit on a small Treein Garden
  • Feeding - Coach roach, crickets, gutload with mango, carrot, kale
Try adding more of a variety of feeders and switch up your gutload every now and again. I'd also suggest adding Bee Pollen and a quality commercial gutload like Repashy Bug Burger/Superload or Cricket Crack. See attached careguides.
  • Supplements - Calcium every feed, calcium with D3 twice a month, nutri vitamins every Third
Brand of all 3 supplements?
  • Watering - Misting technique about 2 min per time, am home every day so when I see Humidity has dropped,
  • Fecal Description - Brown , White Urates,
  • History - Purchased from a reptile shop, discussed my issue with owner who once confirmed I had recently upgraded the bulb ( he knew I wanted too) said it should be ok, looked at pics of him said Growth etc ok, could not see any sign of MBD,
I think there's a translation issue here not sure what you're quite getting at?

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Glass with mesh ventilation 2ft by 3ft width
  • Lighting - Zoo med T5 light across top of cage 6% uv, Komodo basking dome with basking bulb
  • Temperature - Komodo digital, 26 - 30 c,
  • Humidity - Komodo digital min 50 c - 70 - 80 c, Misting daily
  • Plants - Combined Real and Fake
What kind of real plants?

  • Placement - corner of room, higher level, no vents etc
  • Location - Wales UK
Plenty of vines, plants etc
Grip firm
Not shown in images, but to the bottom right I have added another walk way.
Claws all intact to each foot

Current Problem -Cham being clumsy ,seems to fall fairly often. I am going to take to vet for a once over but are there any obvious Husbandry issues.

I feel this is a good idea. Just to be on the safe side.

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The brand of calc etc is Komodo and Exo terra
I feel he has a wide variety of Diet to include Crickets,roaches, wax worms, I try to stay away from Mealies.

Will
 

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Leighqt

Member
Sorry I meant to say, every 3 weeks for Calc with D3
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Ambilobe, Age approx 8- 9mths , in my care from about 3mth
  • Handling - Comes tofront of cageto come out, daily to every other day, just made a small freerange for him, In good weather he likes to sit on a small Treein Garden
  • Feeding - Coach roach, crickets, gutload with mango, carrot, kale
Try adding more of a variety of feeders and switch up your gutload every now and again. I'd also suggest adding Bee Pollen and a quality commercial gutload like Repashy Bug Burger/Superload or Cricket Crack. See attached careguides.
  • Supplements - Calcium every feed, calcium with D3 twice a month, nutri vitamins every Third
Brand of all 3 supplements?
  • Watering - Misting technique about 2 min per time, am home every day so when I see Humidity has dropped,
  • Fecal Description - Brown , White Urates,
  • History - Purchased from a reptile shop, discussed my issue with owner who once confirmed I had recently upgraded the bulb ( he knew I wanted too) said it should be ok, looked at pics of him said Growth etc ok, could not see any sign of MBD,
I think there's a translation issue here not sure what you're quite getting at?

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Glass with mesh ventilation 2ft by 3ft width
  • Lighting - Zoo med T5 light across top of cage 6% uv, Komodo basking dome with basking bulb
  • Temperature - Komodo digital, 26 - 30 c,
  • Humidity - Komodo digital min 50 c - 70 - 80 c, Misting daily
  • Plants - Combined Real and Fake
What kind of real plants?

  • Placement - corner of room, higher level, no vents etc
  • Location - Wales UK
Plenty of vines, plants etc
Grip firm
Not shown in images, but to the bottom right I have added another walk way.
Claws all intact to each foot

Current Problem -Cham being clumsy ,seems to fall fairly often. I am going to take to vet for a once over but are there any obvious Husbandry issues.

I feel this is a good idea. Just to be on the safe side.

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I’m not sure what type of plant this is, but below is a image.
Will take on board about the bee pollen as he will enjoy that.
The brands of Calcium, vitamins are Komodo and Exo Terra

I think a trip to vets is in order
 

Leighqt

Member
Just to update Drago has today come back from the Vets following a X-ray I’m pleased to say there have been no damages to his bones, he has some liquid Calcium and goes back for a follow up in a fortnight
 

Thehippie

Chameleon Enthusiast
that's great!!! keep up your good work!!
Just to update Drago has today come back from the Vets following a X-ray I’m pleased to say there have been no damages to his bones, he has some liquid Calcium and goes back for a follow up in a fortnight
 
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