black spots on my cham

[teamtata]

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Female Oustalet. We don't know how old she is, she looks like a sub-adult, she measures 11 inches with the tail. We have had her for 4-5 weeks now.
Handling - twice a week at the max for minimum of time
Feeding - We feed her in the morning about 8-10 crickets daily sometimes mixed with hornworms and silkworms. We are always gut loading the crickets.
Supplements - Dusting crickets with ReptiCalcium without D3 from Zoomed every other feedings and dusting the crickets every 2 weeks with reptivite with D3.
Watering - We hand mist her about 4 times a day for about 3 minutes. I see her drink sometimes, but she mostly does it when I am not there because her feces look good.
Fecal Description - Urate is white/yellow with brown feces as it should be. Has never been tested for parasites.
History - No previous history

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Glass cage with screen top. 24x24x48
Lighting - 10.0 UVB from Zoomed and using 100W house bulb for basking (not spiral). Both lights opened from 8am to 8 pm daily.
Temperature - Basking temp around 85. At night, it drops to 70. We measure it by an exoterra temperature and humidity gauge.
Humidity - Measured by exoterra gauge. 30 between misting and goes up to 80 after misting
Plants - No living plants
Placement - In the basement, not near a fan or any traffic areas. At about 3 feet from the ground.
Location - Canada, Montreal


CURRENT PROBLEM:
We started seeing black spots appear on her body. We see the spots specially at night when she is lighter. I have read so many things about black spots: some talk about burns, bruises, shedding or even some sort of bacterias. We are first time cham owner and trying our best, but we are starting to get worried. Although I don't think it could be a burn since she could not have burn the spot under her eye on the screen I think since their eyes are popping out (you will see what I mean on the picture).
Also, she has been digging a lot lately, just to get out (we know she is not gravid) and she has been in these crazy position when digging behind her laying bin and scratching her walls so it might be bruises. We dont know what to think.
We found 2 small pieces of skin on branches that shed in the last weeks, but nothing major so could it just be a discoloration of her skin before shedding?

Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures, I tried taking them yesterday night while she was alseep so I did not want to bring the light on too much. The picture where she looks darker is a picture we took the first day we got her while she was sleeping and we can easily see that she did not have any spots. I see a spot near her mouth, one towards the neck, one on the knee, one on her tail and one on the side of her belly. I can try taking some more pictures if you guys want.

Your help would be really appreciated,
thank you,
A&D

 

[teamtata]

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I meant I see a spot near her eye, not near her mouth.

 

[Drakes24]

Well it doesn't look serious but jus as long as she continues to eat right and drink right she should be fine.

 

[freddyf385]

Vitamin A helps keep healthy skin and other things .i also had a similar problem with one of my chams. Its going to be sometime before her black pigmentation goes back to normal. My cham fell and might of hit the side of his mouth pretty hard. Thats what might have caused the black pigmentation on the side of his mouth but after a week slowly but surely hes gone through a shed and and ive been gutloading some feeders with vegtables that have vitamin a. Even tryed my own recipes for gutloading my feeders. And its going back to normal. Also you have a glass enclosure make sure you have proper ventilation going in and out that is very important. Stagnate air is not good,it can cause respitory problems. Her eyes are closed in the pictures is she sleeping during the day? Thats also not a good sign. I would do a fecal test on her to make sure shes alright. And has no funky things going on. Im sure others will chime in to help out if i have missed anything there are a lot more people here with a lot more experience but i hope this helps a little. And i hope everything goes well for you and your cham.

 

[teamtata]

Vitamin A helps keep healthy skin and other things .i also had a similar problem with one of my chams. Its going to be sometime before her black pigmentation goes back to normal. My cham fell and might of hit the side of his mouth pretty hard. Thats what might have caused the black pigmentation on the side of his mouth but after a week slowly but surely hes gone through a shed and and ive been gutloading some feeders with vegtables that have vitamin a. Even tryed my own recipes for gutloading my feeders. And its going back to normal. Also you have a glass enclosure make sure you have proper ventilation going in and out that is very important. Stagnate air is not good,it can cause respitory problems. Her eyes are closed in the pictures is she sleeping during the day? Thats also not a good sign. I would do a fecal test on her to make sure shes alright. And has no funky things going on. Im sure others will chime in to help out if i have missed anything there are a lot more people here with a lot more experience but i hope this helps a little. And i hope everything goes well for you and your cham.

I took the picture during the night while she was sleeping because we can see the spots better at night bcs she is lighter, thats why she has closed eye. I sneeked in and opened the light to take a picture fast fast without waking her up, thats why it looks like its during the day but I took it at night. She never closed her eyes during the day and she always eat good, other than the black spots she looks fine.

Also, you talked about vitamin A, what are the best gutload items that contains a lot of vitamin A?
I will continue watching her and try to give her more vitamin A. Hope it will disappear in a couple of days.

 

[Carlton]

I took the picture during the night while she was sleeping because we can see the spots better at night bcs she is lighter, thats why she has closed eye. I sneeked in and opened the light to take a picture fast fast without waking her up, thats why it looks like its during the day but I took it at night. She never closed her eyes during the day and she always eat good, other than the black spots she looks fine.

Also, you talked about vitamin A, what are the best gutload items that contains a lot of vitamin A?
I will continue watching her and try to give her more vitamin A. Hope it will disappear in a couple of days.

Be VERY CAREFUL adding extra vitamin A to the diet! It is easy to overdose and make health problems worse. I'd rule out other causes before doing this. As for the dark areas, your photos aren't too clear. The spot near her eye could be a small burn but I'm not sure. The other patches seem different...less sharply defined and more like bruising.

Is she possibly gravid and searching for a different egg laying site than the one you have? May be why she's so restless and climbing her cage more.

 

[teamtata]

Be VERY CAREFUL adding extra vitamin A to the diet! It is easy to overdose and make health problems worse. I'd rule out other causes before doing this. As for the dark areas, your photos aren't too clear. The spot near her eye could be a small burn but I'm not sure. The other patches seem different...less sharply defined and more like bruising.

Is she possibly gravid and searching for a different egg laying site than the one you have? May be why she's so restless and climbing her cage more.

Yeah I have been doing some research about vitamin A and thats what I saw, I will continue doing some research about that before changing her feeding and dusting. Thanks for the advice
I will try taking better pictures tonight will she sleeps bcs we see it better when she is lighter at night. I had already done a post about her being possibly gravid but its not the case since her belly is not big at all as everybody said it should be while gravid. She dug for the first time 4 weeks ago and we treated her like a gravid cham for a while, covering the cage and all that stuff but turns out she was not gravid.

 

[teamtata]

updated pics

Be VERY CAREFUL adding extra vitamin A to the diet! It is easy to overdose and make health problems worse. I'd rule out other causes before doing this. As for the dark areas, your photos aren't too clear. The spot near her eye could be a small burn but I'm not sure. The other patches seem different...less sharply defined and more like bruising.

Is she possibly gravid and searching for a different egg laying site than the one you have? May be why she's so restless and climbing her cage more.

Here are some pictures that I took yesterday night, dont mind the water drops on the glass, I tried taking pictures without waking her up so the lighting is not the best. If it's still not clear, let me know and I will take better pics. Also, I added a picture of her tail while sleeping when she is lighter because the one that I had previously posted of her tail was taken during the day. Hope you guys will be able to tell me what it is.
I also uploaded a picture of her during the day so that you can see what the spot around her eye looks like while she is not sleeping.

Thank you

 

[teamtata]

And heres a pic of her other eye that has a little bit less black around, still took the picture while she was sleeping

 

[teamtata]

Here's a good picture of the black spot on her tail (it appears only on 1 side of her tail)

 

[happy]

I've no experience with oustlets, but looks a bit de-hydrated... the tail to me looks a bit like a burn, Ive never seen such a concentrated spot like that. near a window? where some sun can shine through? it looks like a burn also, but like it was from a magnifying glass... are there any spiders in or around the enclosure?? or other insects? any mites or any other pests in the enclose? sharp pointed objects? I had a basking bulb explode once when i got it wet.... :-" any thing like that?

 

[Carlton]

Here's a good picture of the black spot on her tail (it appears only on 1 side of her tail)

These spots just aren't adding up to me. They sort of look like bruises, but would most likely be resolving before now and the spot near her eye is very defined for a bruise. They don't look like burns (or if they are they are minor and in odd places). They aren't scabs or scars as the skin surface texture looks normal. Some skin infections have a raised puffy margin that shows some pink and discharge, but these don't. The one on the tail almost looks like rubbed in dirt. Maybe the best thing would be to ask a vet to take a sample of one of the areas and test for fungal or bacterial growth.