Black soldier flies

[Cait0420]

So about a week ago I bought a container of pheonix worms with hopes they would turn into flies cuz my chams like things with wings, Hasn't happened yet but I was just at my local pet store and apparently they've been letting their flies go! I asked if they could save them for me and they said yes. She even had a few left she gave me to try and my chams are chasing them down as we speak! I was wondering if they still have the calcium they have as worms? I forgot to ask the store. What are the nutritional benefits of black soldier flies?

 

[Cait0420]

Anyone????

 

[LEGliddon]

I'd be interested in this too, as I have some that hatched from uneaten calci worms.

 

[kplatvoet]

I'm pretty sure that they are at least almost as good as flies as they are as larva- but not positive - there's one member who grows them in the summer and they aren't hard - (their food is gets smelly as they are little recycling plants) he made his own but you can get them it's not something you want to do inside-
http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/2013/08/08/black-soldier-fly-2000-egg-starter-kit/

I tried to find more info
http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=38&sid=5b319c50ea682cb61e8fd158b1780cff

 

[Cait0420]

Thanks for the link, I can't seem to find 'nutritional value' on there

 

[Cait0420]

Actually I looked harder and found this: Tasty Grubs contain a veterinarian recommended calcium to phosphorous ratio of 1.5:1. High calcium content means less vitamin powder supplementation is required! But that's just for the pheonix worms not the flies

 

[kplatvoet]

I looked too- it seems that the flies don't eat - I would e-mail the phoenix worm company and ask them if there are any studies on the flies -

 

[Cait0420]

I looked too- it seems that the flies don't eat - I would e-mail the phoenix worm company and ask them if there are any studies on the flies -

That's a great idea, I'll call the lady who supplies them to all the stores around here and she also sold me mine, or is there an actual company?

 

[Cait0420]

Just found this: Naturally high Calcium reverses MBD

Lauric acid combats coccidia & other pathogens

 

[christineacero]

will your guys eat the Pheonix worms? I cant get either of my two to eat anything besides crix...

 

[Cait0420]

Got this off the worm lady website. Phoenix Worms are also a natural weapon against coccidia. In addition to having a perfect balance of calcium and phosphorus, Phoenix Worms provide high levels of natural lauric acid. Lauric acid is known for its excellent antimicrobial properties including potent activity against lipid coated viruses, clostridium and pathogenic protozoa including coccidia. Lauric acid is a medium chain saturated fatty acid found in Phoenix Worms as well as some vegetable oils and in dairy products. 53% of the fat in Phoenix Worms is beneficial lauric acid, a proven antimicrobial especially effective against coccidiosis.

 

[Cait0420]

She said the same goes for the flies

 

[Cait0420]

will your guys eat the Pheonix worms? I cant get either of my two to eat anything besides crix...

They won't eat the worms but they love the flies they turn into

 

[Cait0420]

I also give them a ton of fruit flies, I'm going to a small Michigan reptile show and am hopeing to find some house flies or bluebottle flies cuz they seem to like stuff with wings. I had them outside the other day and one of them shot a fly off my hand

 

[christineacero]

thats awesome! My babies LOVE the fruit flies and prefer those to the super tiny pinheads that I give them as well. I'd love to give my adults flies but I think the fruit flies would be much too small. Choices in Canada are so limited...I've been to probably 5 reptile specialty stores in the area and they all seem to carry the same things

 

[Cait0420]

Yea the fruit flies are pretty small for my guys ive gotta have three colonies going all the time to meet the demand lol

 

[Cait0420]

MY baby boy ate at least 60 ff today, I stoped counting around 40

 

[Rufi0]

So about a week ago I bought a container of pheonix worms with hopes they would turn into flies cuz my chams like things with wings, Hasn't happened yet but I was just at my local pet store and apparently they've been letting their flies go! I asked if they could save them for me and they said yes. She even had a few left she gave me to try and my chams are chasing them down as we speak! I was wondering if they still have the calcium they have as worms? I forgot to ask the store. What are the nutritional benefits of black soldier flies?

Have been trying to find out the nutritional benefits of the Black Soldier Fly (not the larvae) and have found this from a Black Soldier Fly farmer.

"The adult black soldier flies carry most of the nutrients stored in their larvae stage, which is 16% protein, 11% fat and 2.7% calcium"

~ http://youtu.be/RLperqyYkDI

Have asked for references, and will update if he replies

 

[nick barta]

That's a great idea, I'll call the lady who supplies them to all the stores around here and she also sold me mine, or is there an actual company?

Phoenixworms.com is a company.

CHEERS!

Nick