Baytrill

[graydon]

Best way to orally administer baytrill? Vet recommended grabbing it behind the neck and holding it. But that seems super stressful for 10 days

 

[Julirs]

Which Vet did you go see? I usually inject Baytril for URI.

 

[hallenhe]

I haven't given Baytrill, but I give an oral calcium suspension by slipping the syringe in when he's got his mouth open munching on a cricket - wait 'til the cricket's no longer visible, when he's still doing the "open and close the mouth" routine. He bites the syringe, I gently squirt it in, he tilts his head way back (incidentally swallowing), then I give him another bug after a couple minutes in the hopes that that will erase the memory of the medication.

 

[chams1]

I have had to give Baytril orally. There are a few ways that I have done it, but it all depends on your cham and his/her demeanor. If they instinctively gape at you when you get near it, just squirt it in (although be sure not to squirt it so hard that it goes down its throat). I have also grabbed the cham from behind like you said, but also you can tap them (gently) on the nose and they will (most times) instictively gape at you.

Another way to try is to inject the liquid into a juicy feeder worm, such as a horn worm, butter worm or silk worm, and give them the worm. Kills 2 birds with one stone that way.

 

[graydon]

Which Vet did you go see? I usually inject Baytril for URI.

I couldn't make it to Dr. Anderson. I got my appt time screwed up so I went to an exotic vet here in largo who actually knew a lot about cham's. He preferred not to do baytril injections because he believed the infection can be cleared with the oral baytrill. As soon as I got home he gobbled down 2 supers.

 

[graydon]

I have had to give Baytril orally. There are a few ways that I have done it, but it all depends on your cham and his/her demeanor. If they instinctively gape at you when you get near it, just squirt it in (although be sure not to squirt it so hard that it goes down its throat). I have also grabbed the cham from behind like you said, but also you can tap them (gently) on the nose and they will (most times) instictively gape at you.

Another way to try is to inject the liquid into a juicy feeder worm, such as a horn worm, butter worm or silk worm, and give them the worm. Kills 2 birds with one stone that way.

I was thinking of that but I wondered if the worm would actually retain the baytril? have you had success?

 

[graydon]

So today was the first time giving the baytrill and it was suprisingly easier than I thought. I first tried to inject a silkworm but that failed miserably. (I think this could work if you had a needle but I dont.) I simply picked him up and put the syringe near his mouth and he opened it right up. Im relieved that he isnt freaking out and trying to bite me.

edit: and does .50cc's of baytrill for ten days seem ok? thats what I was perscribed.

 

[draetish]

My melleri was 336 grams and was prescribed 0.1 cc once a day. You might want to get a second opinion.

 

[jojackson]

Some notes from a recent talk on antibiotic usage in exotics by Dr. Doug Mader from the FL Keys:

Baytril injectable is to be given as a single IM (intramuscular) injection or IV only. Then, it is to be followed up with the tablets or a liquid suspension orally. This is on the label and for a good reason. The injectable may be given safely orally as well. Baytril is rapidly and well-absorbed through the GIT. Baytril has a pH of 11.0, which is almost as basic as bleach. It is VERY corrosive and damaging to body tissues when injected IM. Multiple injections can cause tissue necrosis and sterile abscesses (tissue death without infection).
Baytril is NOT the only drug that may be used safely in exotics and is widely abused and overprescribed. Vets often turn their brains off when seeing exotics and immediately Rx Baytril for everything.

http://www.marathonvethospital.com/veterinarians.htm

Dr. Mader is the consulting veterinarian for the Key West Aquarium, the Marathon Sea Turtle Hospital and the Monroe County (Sheriff Animal Farm) Zoo. Dr. Mader is an internationally acclaimed expert in Veterinary Medicine and travels over 50,000 miles every year teaching at Veterinary Conferences, Veterinary Schools and Specialty courses. Dr. Mader is also on the review boards of several scientific journals. He has published numerous articles in scientific and veterinary journals, national magazines, newspapers, book chapters and is the author/editor of the Saunder's publication Reptile Medicine and Surgery. Dr. Mader is a Fellow in the Royal Society of Medicine.