anybody know who is purchasing every single wc female pqnther import before they even arrive in us to purchase???????
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Randers88
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Whomever it is needs to save some of those ladies for everyone else.
Klyde O'Scope
Chameleon Enthusiast
Sorry—I thought it was a legit up to date e-zine that would have the story on something like this.
My bad.
So sad that the ezine has fallen by the wayside.
Klyde O'Scope
Chameleon Enthusiast
Roger E. Mosley? Whose*—like Top Cat's—intellectual close friends get to call him "T.C."?
* I'm staying out of that whole "whose vs. who's" debate.
So sad that it has been neglected like it has.
JoXie411
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Real footage of me in my house right now
shaunaroxanne
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It does seem fishy that there are no females. I’ve been told almost none came in, as well.
Pickle-cham
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Will be getting smart and keeping them bk to breed in farms bk in Madagascar
Its imo its more important to follow the females lineage for pedigree locale
Tige21v
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This is interesting.Will be getting smart and keeping them bk to breed in farms bk in Madagascar
Its imo its more important to follow the females lineage for pedigree locale
I think this is may be my same question...
Why the interest in the females?
I do not pretend to know much of anything about genetics or the such. But it would seem to me the WC males would be of more interest to a breeder than the females? You would know what the adult WC male looks like, and could choose a CB female that you know the lineage of to pair the male with, if you were trying to breed for a specific trait.
A WC female, you would have no idea what the parents look like. And it is easier to recognize a male from a specific locale that a female.
Is it that a WC female would bring in more (genetic) diversity?
(Not trolling, just lookin to learn.)
Mendez
Chameleon Enthusiast
That's a good question. I'm sure someone will have a better explanation than me, but I'll give it my best shot down below.This is interesting.
I think this is may be my same question...
Why the interest in the females?
I do not pretend to know much of anything about genetics or the such. But it would seem to me the WC males would be of more interest to a breeder than the females? You would know what the adult WC male looks like, and could choose a CB female that you know the lineage of to pair the male with, if you were trying to breed for a specific trait.
A WC female, you would have no idea what the parents look like. And it is easier to recognize a male from a specific locale that a female.
Is it that a WC female would bring in more (genetic) diversity?
(Not trolling, just lookin to learn.)
The answer (maybe??): I think you are on the right track. If they were indeed trying to breed for a specific trait, they could find one crazy looking male with the most insane colors and then pair him up (theoretically) with every female that they keep. And then this way they have a bunch of chams to sell to other countries. I could definitely be wrong, but the same concept would apply even if they weren't breeding for traits. You have one male and pair him up with a bunch of females and voila you have many more babies than you would have if the ratio was opposite. The number of babies directly correlates to the number of females kept.
Tige21v
Avid Member
That would make sense. They aren't even making out of the country.
But regarding someone (a breeder outside the country) purchasing all the females, I am not sure the same would apply.
Unless it is a farm outside of the country I guess.
But in regards to the small scale, or hobby breeder, I don't understand the interest in the WC females.
But regarding someone (a breeder outside the country) purchasing all the females, I am not sure the same would apply.
Unless it is a farm outside of the country I guess.
But in regards to the small scale, or hobby breeder, I don't understand the interest in the WC females.
Pickle-cham
Chameleon Enthusiast
The malesThis is interesting.
I think this is may be my same question...
Why the interest in the females?
I do not pretend to know much of anything about genetics or the such. But it would seem to me the WC males would be of more interest to a breeder than the females? You would know what the adult WC male looks like, and could choose a CB female that you know the lineage of to pair the male with, if you were trying to breed for a specific trait.
A WC female, you would have no idea what the parents look like. And it is easier to recognize a male from a specific locale that a female.
Is it that a WC female would bring in more (genetic) diversity?
(Not trolling, just lookin to learn.)
Exactly with the males you already see what your going to get minus some recessive genes but the females need to be proven hence why i think its more crucial to know her lineage. (When trying to keep in their locale forms)This is interesting.
I think this is may be my same question...
Why the interest in the females?
I do not pretend to know much of anything about genetics or the such. But it would seem to me the WC males would be of more interest to a breeder than the females? You would know what the adult WC male looks like, and could choose a CB female that you know the lineage of to pair the male with, if you were trying to breed for a specific trait.
A WC female, you would have no idea what the parents look like. And it is easier to recognize a male from a specific locale that a female.
Is it that a WC female would bring in more (genetic) diversity?
(Not trolling, just lookin to learn.)
Lennoncham
Chameleon Enthusiast
I believe there is actually only 1 or 2 people licensed to “farm” chameleons in Madagascar. So unless they have some ungodly amount of chameleons I would think most are still wild caught.
Pickle-cham
Chameleon Enthusiast
How many are licensed in Florida to ranch though doesn't stop there from being a illicit trade. And I'm sure they are on a quota of how many can be exported from wildcaught but would this include farmed chameleons i wonder
