Zee is 1 year old Today!!

Wow....all Connie did was post a Happy Birthday to her cham and now Zee is under the microscope, that's all I'm saying.
 
I think it is you that are being defensive-we are just inquisitive. He is really a year old-look through past posts. I am just super curious because even though I have seen smaller, deforemed chams-they still show typical male coloration.

So-does it matter? No

But is it interesting? Yes.

My veiled chameleon Waldo is runty and small as well. He is this way because he has been sick since I received him and has had a small appetite thus slowing his growth. He is a year old and about the same size as Zee. However, regardless of his size, he still is showing vibrant male coloration. I do not think that size has much to do with color, rather that it is age maturity and genetics that determine the color.
 
I am not trying to be mean-that little one sounds like he has a very caring home indeed-I just NEVER see male Veileds that look like that, but this week 2 people are showing male chams that have spurs that are old enough by far to show male coloration that look exactly like females, and then people post I clearly see bars but not many people are saying that looks nothing like what a year old MALE veiled should look like.

Honestly i thought it was a joke at first i thought he was a juvenile he looks so young. But happy birthday little dude.My shih tzu is a runt too hes 8 years old now and looks like a puppy still lol.
 
no he is my only one. I don't know if it means anything but when he was born and for the first three months he was a reddish brown color.There was a female the same color as him. Plus they almost had to force feed him. He only wanted fruit flies for three months. When I got him he finally started eating crickets. He has been growing very slowing ever since he was born. :eek:
 
no he is my only one. I don't know if it means anything but when he was born and for the first three months he was a reddish brown color.There was a female the same color as him. Plus they almost had to force feed him. He only wanted fruit flies for three months. When I got him he finally started eating crickets. He has been growing very slowing ever since he was born. :eek:

Interesting. I have one too out of my 08 Veiled clutch that was brown at about 3 months, and I had to separate him from the other since they attacked him with a vengeance. He ended up with a metabolic disorder and looks very much like he has MBD. But he is colored as a normal Veiled.
 
The two of them were not attacked that I know of and he was the only one born tail first out that clutch. Sometimes his legs get a little fat but that is right before he is getting ready to grow. I was concerned the first time I saw his legs get fatter because I had read about MBD,and how slow he was growing, but then he shed and grew and his legs were not fat anymore. So I just take it that he healthy and will eventually get big at his own pace and that he is unique, and we wil love him not matter what. :D
 
Is anyone else perplexed by the female coloration and spurs??? There is not a male barred pattern to be found on this little one.

Casque shape and size and overall size are much more in line with a female-no obvious man-bulge?????

i agree with julirs, looks like a female. it doesn't look like a year old.....
 
Hey our veild's could be somehow related :D Haha I'm joking, but I do find it wierd that theres no barring or anything :( Happy birthday though :)
 
I still say male I can see the bars, they are faint but there!
He has slow growth but he wont stop growing until he is full grown.
I say in the next 2 months his bars will be much more prominent.

Have you ever put him infront of a mirror? Mature males will puff up and display their colours. Try that then maybe his bars will show more and if they do take a pic and post it on here.
 
I still say male I can see the bars, they are faint but there!
He has slow growth but he wont stop growing until he is full grown.
I say in the next 2 months his bars will be much more prominent.

Have you ever put him infront of a mirror? Mature males will puff up and display their colours. Try that then maybe his bars will show more and if they do take a pic and post it on here.

Have you ever seen a Veiled? I am not trying to be insulting-but females show the barring that the cham in question shows. At a year I find it hard to beleive he will develop bars all of a sudden.
 
Have you ever seen a Veiled? I am not trying to be insulting-but females show the barring that the cham in question shows. At a year I find it hard to beleive he will develop bars all of a sudden.

I have owned veileds for almost 4 years so yes . . .

I know what you mean by the female barring but it doesnt look the same to me.
 
I have owned veileds for almost 4 years so yes . . .

I know what you mean by the female barring but it doesnt look the same to me.

This is female barring-looks very similar to me...

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Am i just blessed to have big beautiful Veileds that look like male Veileds with yellow stripes and clear barring? Does anyone else own one of these feminine looking males or is this a joke? Even my runty, deformed 1.5 year old male Veiled looks like a normal male Veiled in coloring! Help-am I the crazy one here?

Like I said-I see the spurs-but NOTHING else looks male about that chameleon.

Congrats on the B-day for your boy. He is a handsome guy! However, I do understand where Julirs is coming from. Your boy shows female barring and color. Most males have more intense barring and yellow hues. Very interesting but Congrats.
 
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