Young veiled cham, my first reptile, might be sick???

cosimoto

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Hello please be patient with my post, hopefully it's not as long winded to you, as it seems to me.

photo album: http://s869.photobucket.com/albums/ab257/andoloro/

First, my chams situation:
I have a male veiled cham, approx 3-5 months old, I purchased him from the Seattle Reptile Expo, from amazing blue reptiles, which came highly recommended from Pam, from Pam's Chams. He is about 8 inches in total length and what appears to be a healthy weight. I have owned him for about 2 weeks. I did a large amount of research; on the web, bought a few books, and read a lot on this forum. His enclosure is fully screened, 24'' high, 18'' wide and 18'' deep. There is UVB lighting, a UVA and basking lamp, and a night heat lamp, everything is on timers; 12 hour cycle. The day temps (measured at the highest and lowest vined point) are 90-95 degrees in the basking zone and 70-75 in the lower limits of the vines. With the night temps between 80-89 high zone 65-70 in the low. He has two drippers, one in his basking space and another away from heat, an irrigation system (rain ring), and I mist twice a day, maintaining the humidity between 50-70% respectively. I clean up any standing water from the pvc bottom of his enclosure twice a day and remove his droppings from plants and etc. He drinks a lot of water and eats vigorously. He eats 15-25 small crickets a day, I dust about 3-5 of them, and they are all gut fed a minimum of 24 hours before feeding. Right now that is all I'm feeding him. He seems healthy in activity, he moves a lot, doesn't sleep during day, regulates himself what seems to be well, well is always at different heights periodically. He also had a shed that seemed to be over in a very healthy period of time; 9am 5 days ago I noticed some of his skin loosening by lights out in the same evening he was just rubbing the last of it off his head on a tree limb. I observe him eat and drink. So why am I concerned???

okay my concerns:
I think he might have a URI, my reasons:

His poop seems odd. To explain, the urate is orange in color. However, it's not 100% of the time, some are whiter with like an orange liquid and some seem to be solid orange. Some are also wetter than would seem normal. Pictures in reference were taken two days ago.

He seems to mouth breathe quite a bit, even when his color doesn't support aggression or feeling threatened. I started looking carefully but he doesn't have any mucous in the corners of his mouth. So it may be just to regulate temp???

His nostrils seems to be clogged with mucous (possibly), it just seems like the nostril hole is white, not like a black hole, like there is stuff in there. Today I had to grab him and used a q-tip to remove what was like a single grain of salt sitting right on his left nostril. He displayed some beautiful angry coloring, but it wasn't to traumatic he calmed after a minute or two and then chilled as I let him crawl my hands for 5 minutes or so before returning him. The pictures in the album titled, left side and right side were taken today during that encounter, so please use these photos as reference if you'd like to look at his nostrils most currently.

I just worry that he may be getting a URI, maybe I'm over worrying I really just don't want him do die. If any of these assumed symptoms worsen or it becomes very evident something is wrong I will take him to a vet immediately.

What I'm basically looking for is a little more info or perspective on my observations. I almost feel like I'm too worried about him, but I'd rather be safe then sorry.

Again sorry for how long this is....

Photo album...
http://s869.photobucket.com/albums/ab257/andoloro/
 
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Okay so the orange urate means he is dehydrated. How many times a day do you mist? Also, have you seen him drinking?

Veiled chameleons have the ability to show if they are getting too much supplements. The extra supplements will be shown as little white granules on his nose, your "grain of salt".

It does not sound like a URI, maybe he is breathing like that just from dehydration but you should definitely bring him to a specialist vet.

Please fill this out and pictures are always helpful

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.
 
Well his poop in the pictures look good. If they urate is orange he is dehydrated just a bit if your saying its not orange all the time.
when you say he breathes through his mouth do you mean he keeps it open and is like gasping for air? If so he is to hot.
 
How would I get him to drink more? there is ample water droplets just ready for the taking in easily accessible places.

In response to justjumpit621 I believe my post contained all the info you asked, and there is a link to a photo album relevant to my post.

In responses to CleatheChameleon's post, yes he does keep it (his mouth) open, although it doesn't seem he is gasping. He doesn't weaze or breathe loudly.

I think I'm just going to keep a very watchful eye, rethink his watering accessibility and make an appt. to get him looked over.
 
thanks... this is my first post here, I will update my profile, and cut and paste your info questionaire for future posts, it will be very helpful.

everything in the photos look normal?
 
he turns lime almost tennis ball green with some white highlights... he was just mad he was out of his home.
 
For a baby that young his basking temp is too hot, which could be why he keeps his mouth open sometimes. Lower it to about 80-84 degrees and he should stop. Mist him about 3-4 times a day for a couple minuteseach time and see if his urates become pearly white :) Usually they just need a longer amount of time misting to stimulate them to drink.
 
Vet appt. went well... it was as suspected he is just slightly dehydrated. I've been misting him more and have reduced the heat at the top to 85-90... he seems much better and his urate is whitening more and more with each waste he produces. Thank you all.
 
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