Wholesale chameleons VS retail Chameleons

[ferretinmyshoes]

When I was advertising my panther babies I was approached multiple times with offers like that too. Never considered them for all the reasons you mention. I sold several females to other larger breeders and they ALWAYS wanted a discount. Pretty much demanded it. Why would I sell to them cheaper just so they can breed the heck out of them? And make a ton of money off of them as discount egg machines?? I never understood that logic. I turned most of them down.

 

[Fiona's Mom]

I bet u took care of them better than all of human Son, one human step-son, 5 human step-daughters, 14 grandkids, one great granddaughter, a 2 yr old Mini Dachshund (girl) a 6 month old male Shorkie, Fiona and Skipper my male Betta...oh yeah....and my husband (male)

I hope I did right by them all.

 

[alphakenc]

So why is no one wholesale Parson yet??
Regardless is a pygmy,Jackson,veiled,panther?they are all beautiful chameleons any thoughts ???
Edit :never mind,Focus alphakenc!!

 

[cyberlocc]

When I was advertising my panther babies I approached multiple times with offers like that too. Never considered them for all the reasons you mention. I sold multiple females to other larger breeders and they ALWAYS wanted a discount. Pretty much demanded it. Why would I sell to them cheaper just so they can breed the heck out of them? And make a ton of money off of them as discount egg machines?? I never understood that logic. I turned most of them down.

As you should have. I wouldnt understand that either, if you are breeding to turn a profit (they obviously are) than that is part of your expense. I would be even more leary of them, if you cant afford the normal price of the cham, how are you paying for lighting and food. Cutting corners is never a good thing when it comes to taking care of a life.

 

[alphakenc]

When I was advertising my panther babies I approached multiple times with offers like that too. Never considered them for all the reasons you mention. I sold multiple females to other larger breeders and they ALWAYS wanted a discount. Pretty much demanded it. Why would I sell to them cheaper just so they can breed the heck out of them? And make a ton of money off of them as discount egg machines?? I never understood that logic. I turned most of them down.

Thats why u are a smart ferret in ur shoes,keep the chams in ur family

 

[Fiona's Mom]

Oh that there prime cham eating. Parasite free cause you CBed em. I hope you sold em? Or fed them . That is some tasty morsels for Fiona.

I have been thinking of when my reptile room is finished letting a bunch go so they can eat spiders and escapees LOL.

After they grew some I let them loose....but they are maturing everywhere I look so it will be egg hunting season soon!

 

[Fiona's Mom]

As you should have. I wouldnt understand that either, if you are breeding to turn a profit (they obviously are) than that is part of your expense. I would be even more leary of them, if you cant afford the normal price of the cham, how are you paying for lighting and food. Cutting corners is never a good thing when it comes to taking care of a life.

That is why between my 2 dogs and my chameleon I have been to the vet. 3 times in the last 2 weeks.

 

[cyberlocc]

So why is no one wholesale Parson yet??
Regardless is a pygmy,Jackson,veiled,panther?they are all beautiful chameleons any thoughts ???

I told you why, they are too expensive.

Okay so I have never been approached by a wholesaler, as I haven't breed yet however I have seen a few wholesale related posts here, that give me some price ideas.

A Panther wholesaled is worth like what 100? is that what they offered you? Thing is they are cheap enough and demanded enough to sell quickly. And any fool with a Petsmart or Petco can go buy 2 Veileids that he hardly knows how to take care of must less breed and bred them and wholesale them off after they are born.

To breed a parsons requires money up front, quite a bit. And knowledge and better care to stay alive must less breed. And if they were to be wholesaled, only experienced owners would buy them. I have seen a "Flipper" that has had a pair of Parsonii in stock for awhile, no one is buying them. Its one thing to buy a 30 dollar veiled for joe schmo that knows nothing and another to drop 1500 on a parsons. They dont sell for flippers as experienced people buy parsons and experienced people dont buy from flippers.

Plus on the retail side they are a bad investment for a flipper. I own a retail store not for chams, however same applies. Why would I buy a bunch of X item that I sell 1 of every few years if I am lucky when it costs me 1000 to have it sit there and maybe one day sell for 1500. With a cham, its shelf time is even worse, and it requires more money to sit on the shelf.

 

[Fiona's Mom]

After they grew some I let them loose....but they are maturing everywhere I look so it will be egg hunting season soon!

That was supposed to say "Mating"

 

[Chachi]

So alphakenc I got alot of emails and ask me if I wana wholesale bunch of my chameleons???
Here is my opinions of the wholesale....
Why would the great breeders want to sell their precious chamies into a whole sale business??? First,I will never trust a wholesale buyer to resale my chamies just because they only wana sell them quick and once they go to another dealer's hand ,then they resale them to the general public,so when the regular consumer purchase their cham at last,these poor chamy have been shift around several place ,environment,enclosuress,temperature,feeders ....etc ,maybe thats why we get lots new members having trouble to feed them or sickness happen.
Plus Who will have the best information on these "wholesaler chams" ?the resaler ? The buyer? Or is the original breeders??
Maybe thats the reason u will never see the forum sponsors sell their chams to the "whole saler"...
Thats why their quality cham in their stock are cost much more,since when the customers buy the chams not knowing where they came from or how they been taking care of...
I am so glad I dont wholesale my cham cause each every single one are involved with my endless hours care n my years of the experience along with the knowledge I learned and share in this forum!!
Any thought,please feel free to express ur opinions

Alphakenc, there is no reason for you to wholesalet your chamies. They should all get good homes through your adoption.
I want to thank you so much for KC. He is perfect. I want to tell everyone that a couple of weeks ago Alphakenc sent me this perfect little chameleon baby. He was in a small vented plastic container with a wet tissue for humidity and water. The Container was protected with paper and Styrofoam and sent professionally in a labeled overnight package.
I opened the Container and my little guy was perfect. He had pooped in Yisrael container and it was brown and snowy white, a sign of hydration and health. He has a little round belly and eats so so good.
Ken told me what he ate and how to do it. I did exactly the same.
That's what's good about selling chams personally. You know what yr gettin the best. My little guy has thrived because he started out so good.

 

[alphakenc]

I told you why, they are too expensive.

Okay so I have never been approached by a wholesaler, as I haven't breed yet however I have seen a few wholesale related posts here, that give me some price ideas.

A Panther wholesaled is worth like what 100? is that what they offered you? Thing is they are cheap enough and demanded enough to sell quickly. And any fool with a Petsmart or Petco can go buy 2 Veileids that he hardly knows how to take care of must less breed and bred them and wholesale them off after they are born.

To breed a parsons requires money up front, quite a bit. And knowledge and better care to stay alive must less breed. And if they were to be wholesaled, only experienced owners would buy them. I have seen a "Flipper" that has had a pair of Parsonii in stock for awhile, no one is buying them. Its one thing to buy a 30 dollar veiled for joe schmo that knows nothing and another to drop 1500 on a parsons. They dont sell for flippers as experienced people buy parsons and experienced people dont buy from flippers.

Plus on the retail side they are a bad investment for a flipper. I own a retail store not for chams, however same applies. Why would I buy a bunch of X item that I sell 1 of every few years if I am lucky when it costs me 1000 to have it sit there and maybe one day sell for 1500. With a cham, its shelf time is even worse, and it requires more money to sit on the shelf.

I just saw it,I was talking on the other thread about their cham

 

[alphakenc]

Alphakenc, there is no reason for you to wholesalet your chamies. They should all get good homes through your adoption.
I want to thank you so much for KC. He is perfect. I want to tell everyone that a couple of weeks ago Alphakenc sent me this perfect little chameleon baby. He was in a small vented plastic container with a wet tissue for humidity and water. The Container was protected with paper and Styrofoam and sent professionally in a labeled overnight package.
I opened the Container and my little guy was perfect. He had pooped in Yisrael container and it was brown and snowy white, a sign of hydration and health. He has a little round belly and eats so so good.
Ken told me what he ate and how to do it. I did exactly the same.
That's what's good about selling chams personally. You know what yr gettin the best. My little guy has thrived because he started out so good.

Im so glad u love him,he deserves a great owner like you Miss Chachi,please take lots Progression picture of KC,I will assure you he will turn into a exotic loving vivid colorful panther chameleon ,this type of chameleon their colors comes in seprated stages,so he will be "for ur eyes only" start in the next couple month and I greatly thank u to taking a great care of him,my happiness can't even described right now with all the words

 

[cyberlocc]

And this is why my Next cham is coming from Alpha . As long as he doesn't sell out on me.

 

[Chachi]

Th

I agree 100% I am considering getting into breeding, and if and when I do I am going to vet every person I sell to. If I dont know them, I want pics of the setup, layout of the care they will provide supplements diet ect. To make sure each and every one gets the best home possible.

That's what I did w Ken. I sent him photos of everything

 

[cyberlocc]

Th

That's what I did w Ken. I sent him photos of everything

Yep he is a good breeder . Good guy too.

 

[Fiona's Mom]

Alphakenc, there is no reason for you to wholesalet your chamies. They should all get good homes through your adoption.
I want to thank you so much for KC. He is perfect. I want to tell everyone that a couple of weeks ago Alphakenc sent me this perfect little chameleon baby. He was in a small vented plastic container with a wet tissue for humidity and water. The Container was protected with paper and Styrofoam and sent professionally in a labeled overnight package.
I opened the Container and my little guy was perfect. He had pooped in Yisrael container and it was brown and snowy white, a sign of hydration and health. He has a little round belly and eats so so good.
Ken told me what he ate and how to do it. I did exactly the same.
That's what's good about selling chams personally. You know what yr gettin the best. My little guy has thrived because he started out so good.

He is adorable...what's not to love.

 

[Chachi]

Wow

Last year I found eggs in my potted plants....put them in a plastic container with soil and hatched 28 of the little nuggets.....then bought flightless fruit flies to feed them.

! Wow! Really? Cool. What did you have?

 

[Chachi]

Wow

! Wow! Really? Cool. What did you have?

Ok wait. I see. Anoles. Still cool

 

[Fiona's Mom]

Wow

! Wow! Really? Cool. What did you have?

They were anoles...cute little things. It was weird...all but two hatched at about 8:30 in the morning. They are what first got me started with my new pastime that I love. Fiona is my 1st and only chameleon at this time but sometime I would love a male of some type. I don't think I will get into breeding so it doesn't have to be a veiled.

 

[Chachi]

I have 4 big chams and 2 little baby chamies. I have a tortoise and a great dane.