White Pupil?

My chameleon-Jackson's chameleon a little over a year old maybe 1 1/2 years old ive had him for a bout a year now hes a male

Handling- I don't usually handle him for ive read and been told not to handle them much but i still do sometimes

feeding-I feed him crickets from pet-smart and occasionally meal worms, they eat flukers cricket quencher with calcium in it

water-i refill my chameleons water daily i mist twice a day and i have a humidifier running about 24/7 and i sometimes see him drinking but not enitrly often

fecal desc-looks the same as allways

cage-info
type-18-18-36tall all screen
the normal lights you should have for them- heat/cermaic bulb/uv light
heat-60 on the bottom and at night somewhat lower maybe and at the top 70-80 under the lamps
humidity is usually around 80%

no live plants
height top at 6ft maybe 3ft tall cage on a 3ish ft tall stand
i live in colorado U.S

the problem i am concerned about is that my chameleon currently have a whit pupil instaed of black in one eye it somethimes turns back to black and he uses it more but right now its white and he ussulay uses his other eye im very worried about him for i can not find this problem at all anywhere on the internet please help!?!?

if you need a pic i can allways add one if you need it
 

Carlton

Chameleon Enthusiast
Really hard to tell without a pic. Has he shed recently? Does the eye go back to normal if you mist him down? Can he move the eye turret normally?

Aside from that, his diet needs some improvement. Feeding mealworms isn't great...they are not very nutritious and they have a high chitin content (harder to digest). Crix should be gutloaded better as the commercial cricket quencher isn't good enough on its own. Crix should be gutloaded for a few days after you buy them because most stores don't feed them well at all. Feed them fresh dark leafy greens (I use leftover mixed salad greens), bee pollen, chunks of fruit (oranges are great), kale, etc. Check the forum sponsors for some much more complete gutloads. Fewer of your crix will die off too soon as well. Try adding superworms, Dubia roaches, silkworms, hornworms (NOT off your tomato plants!) blue bottle flies, waxworms (treats), stick bugs and mantises.

Jax are sensitive to supplement dusts. He should get a light dusting of plain calcium (no D3) daily, calcium with D3 maybe once a month, and a herp multivitamin about once a month to 6 weeks. UV lights need to be changed periodically (about 6 months for ReptiSun 5.0, about 4-5 months for ReptiGlo).
 
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thank you for the feed back i will now change his diet and add some of these items into my weekly list to gt for him and also what are horn worms and where might you get some/how expensive and also i have heard that super worms aren't great for them but that must be wrong also the super worms seem just too plain big for him i will be adding a picture soon im having technical difficulties with my phone pics.
 
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i think this is the right photo i hope this will help you with it, i also have noticed is that like you asked if misting him helps and i think it does even though it pisses him off when a little mist from the bottle touches him, i have misted him before seeing if that would work and a little while after i think he used that eye a little more than before. also when he takes a "bath" by sitting in his water dish and soaking that also seemed to clear up his eye. and yes he shed just a week ago but the eye thing has been going on since before he shed last.
 

ataraxia

Avid Member
Hi, your jacksons more than likely has an infection but it could also be skin from his last shed in the turret.

You will want to take him to a qualified herp vet as soon as possible to find a solution.
 
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uh just wondering how much might it cost to take him to a herp vet? and how would the fix the infection be cause i know a reg vet for dogs and stuff have very expensive rates might you happen toy know any price ranges?
 

ataraxia

Avid Member
You will just have to call around.

If you want a guess from what we pay around here. Your probably looking right around $100-150 for the visit and meds.
 

Lathis

Chameleon Enthusiast
You should get rid of the water dish and get him a dripper instead. He could have caught an eye infection from bacteria in the water dish.

If water gives him some relief, let him sit in the shower for about 20-30 minutes. The high humidity and warm water spray might help him clear his eye. This is what I do (I learned it on this forum): set a fake plant in the shower and put him on it. Turn the water on warm and aim the shower head at the wall (not directly on the plant). Then position the plant so that the indirect spray off the wall hits the plant. Always watch him in the shower to be sure he doesn't drown or hurt himself.

FYI - My last vet visit ran $60 for the exam and $15 for meds. It's worth it; definitely take him to the vet. They might work out a payment plan for you, it can't hurt to ask.
 
thanks alot for the feed back but i always keep the water clean i change it every dayand put that reptile safe water stuff to killl bacteria in the water so that wouldnt happen but then again you never know what can go wrong... but i also do have a dripper but my jacksons like the bowl more than the dripper it seems
 

vgaines

Member
I would def. try the shower method. Also, my Veiled Chameleon was drinking from a water fountain at the pet store I got him from. He was drinking from a dripper the same day I brought him home and I never put standing water back in his cage. I found that when misting he likes it better if hot water is used (its warm when it hits the cage). These are suggestions that members on this forum gave me and it worked. Make sure your dripper drips onto leaves etc. so he can get near one and drink the water droplets.

Hope these suggestions help. BTW when I took my cham to the vet with an eye infection it cost me a little over $100 including the eye drops...
 
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I just heavily misted his cage and it got on him too with warm mist and i am hooking up a water dripper now i think i have big dripper from zoo med or some other brand.
 
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as i have said i will keep this post updated i just called my local reptile specialist place called scales'n tails i asked the man working there over the phone about my issue and the man said that one solution is to take a tiny bit of neosporin and i think i spelled that wrong but he said to lightly dab it onto his bad eye so it might help clear it up and more likely keep it more or less cleaner than before. But then he also said its really hard to tell without seeing it himself so tonight i will be taking him over there to show him and maybe get more answers on his eye P.S i have also been looking into other vets as a backup if this doesn't work
 

ataraxia

Avid Member
Honestly any ointment that was designed by the manufacture to be used only on the skin should be used as that.

+FACE PALM+ A vet giving that kind of advice without seeing the animal...Sigh.
Not that it will not work but for the fact that he just gave possible false hope and thus allowing a infection to progress with the time you will take to try this.

They make specific products to go on the eye and the same can go for the skin. It should be used as it is designed for,

If your going to just try anything. Order some terramycin from LLLreptile

I wish you luck trying to find a herp vet in your area. It is quite a task.,
 

Carlton

Chameleon Enthusiast
Honestly any ointment that was designed by the manufacture to be used only on the skin should be used as that.

+FACE PALM+ A vet giving that kind of advice without seeing the animal...Sigh.
Not that it will not work but for the fact that he just gave possible false hope and thus allowing a infection to progress with the time you will take to try this.

They make specific products to go on the eye and the same can go for the skin. It should be used as it is designed for,

If your going to just try anything. Order some terramycin for LLLreptile
Right! NEVER put anything in the eye that is not formulated or safe for ocular use!!!!!!!!!!

Also, if gently flushing the eye seems to ease it, don't use plain water...it stings. Use a sterile saline such as contact lens rinse solution that does not contain preservatives. It won't sting and may make him more comfortable until you can have a vet examine the eye for injuries or infection.
 

ferretinmyshoes

Veterinarian
Staff member
Scales n tails is a pet store, NOT a vet. And they give out notoriously bad advice. Do NOT put neosporin in the eye! Are you located in Colorado?
 
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Ok i will not do that as well as i am actually located in colorado, but why does scalesn tails give out bad advise if thats their job is to work with them? also i was just starting to use the flukers cricket quencher and it said it reaplces calcium dust but they lied i went to a vet and they said that he had early stages of calcium deficiency and that the eye thing was a side efect, now i threw away the flukers stuff and now i am back to the calcium dust with d3 in it, i will also be ordering silkworms or hornworms too mix up his diet. oh and by the way he only told me to put neosoprin around the rim if the eye not in it, to hopefully keep other bacteria out untill it clears up.
 

ferretinmyshoes

Veterinarian
Staff member
It's their job but they don't actually have any training. They may have good intentions but without training they cannot give you the correct information because they don't know it themselves.
 
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