Which "- arium" would be the best ..

[kyreg]

100 gallon Flexarium. Thats the largest, the smallest is 38 gallon

OR
This is the two sided screenedterrarium.. witha slide glass door

Thats the lagest and its a 24" x 18" x 24" 60 x 45 x 60 cm

Or the exploarium

with the largest being ..Explorarium 60 60 x 90 cm 24"x 36"

I dont know what i should get..its really between the first two, i just put the exploarium there as another option..
Help?

 

[joefarah]

Telling us what species of chameleon you plan to put in there might help us decide which cage would be best... so far though i'm going with the first one.

 

[kyreg]

Telling us what species of chameleon you plan to put in there might help us decide which cage would be best... so far though i'm going with the first one.

It's a 4 month female veiled.

 

[Kat77]

Your veiled will like the height of the 100 gallon "flexarium".

But it might be too big for the little girl right now. I don't know how much Flexariums cost, but Reptariums are pretty inexpensive, and you could get a smaller one to start out with (you still have the glass right?) On the other hand, if you are cup feeding, the space in the 100 gallon Flex would work fine, and when she gets bigger you could start free ranging her feeders...

Sorry. That was all over the place!

I'm going to guess that the 100 gallon Flexarium is 24x24x48 inches? (48 being the height) That would be ideal for her when she is fully grow, the more height the better.

 

[reptimom]

I orginally bought a 175 gallon repterium, but It was a pain to zip and unzip as tall as it was. I have switched to a 24x24x48 aluminium cage and really like it much better. I did get an Explorarium when I first got my chameleon which was so very nice to put him in to start with so he could get to his food without any problems. When he moved into the larger cage, I still used the explorarium for outside outings (to hard to move a large cage outside) and was great when it was cage cleaning time. Hope this helps.

 

[MdngtRain]

don't waste your money on the explorarium. I bought one as a sunning cage, but it's too hard to get in & out of. There are only 2 relaively small openings. One is about the size of a piece f paper, the other is only about 2"x2". I had to temporarily house 2 of my jacksons in it, and it really sucks. I can hardly feed them, and the crix manage to escape anyway... NOT a good investment.
I too would recommend the larger aluminum cage, but make sure the door goes all the way to the bottom, or there is an openable flap at the bottom for easy cleaning.

 

[kyreg]

Thanks for your help!
im going to get the flexarium,
And Kat77 : no i let the crickets go inside the glass one.
but see i want one for her that will last i wont hav e to go back buy three different ones ...lol
MAYBE i should just keep her in the glass on e for now and keep doing what im doing with the doos being open. and in a few months ill just switch her to e the 100gallon...
sorry imtalking to myself now.
but if i have to ill buy terrariums that will suit her at that specific time in her growth..
Thanks.
These are the sizes.
PT-2552 38 Gallon 42 x 42 x 76 cm 16.5" x 16.5" x 30"
PT-2554 65 Gallon 76 x 42 x 76 cm 30" x 16.5" x 30"
PT-2556 100 Gallon 76 x 42 x 122 cm 30" x 16.5" x 48"

 

[kim01]

i would also go with the first one. i would talk with the breeder who you are getting the cham from. see how they are housed and what size enclousure they are kept in.
i am not too sure i really go for it could be too big for the babies(just my personal thoughts). i bought the 100 gallon reptarium for my 18 panther male,from the get go and he has done fine.
i would get the biggest you can afford. and the biger the better that way they can "hunt" for thier food. as my breeder told me they will find food.

 

[Kat77]

No no, what I mean is IF you cup feed, you could get the big one and have that be your only cage, otherwise the feeders will be to tough for your little one to find and you will have to start out with a smaller screen cage and get a larger one down the line. To make a cup feeder you can buy a deli cup, poke two holes in one side and attach it to a branch with a twisty tie. Put crickets in, dust and reattach to the branch each time you want to feed. Very easy! You can start free ranging the crix when your cham gets bigger and can find it's food more easily. That way you wont need to get two different cages and can start with and keep the large cage. Did that make sense?

Please do not keep her in that glass terrarium.

Thanks for your help!
im going to get the flexarium,
And Kat77 : no i let the crickets go inside the glass one.
but see i want one for her that will last i wont hav e to go back buy three different ones ...lol
MAYBE i should just keep her in the glass on e for now and keep doing what im doing with the doos being open. and in a few months ill just switch her to e the 100gallon...
sorry imtalking to myself now.
but if i have to ill buy terrariums that will suit her at that specific time in her growth..
Thanks.
These are the sizes.
PT-2552 38 Gallon 42 x 42 x 76 cm 16.5" x 16.5" x 30"
PT-2554 65 Gallon 76 x 42 x 76 cm 30" x 16.5" x 30"
PT-2556 100 Gallon 76 x 42 x 122 cm 30" x 16.5" x 48"

 

[Kat77]

i would also go with the first one. i would talk with the breeder who you are getting the cham from. see how they are housed and what size enclousure they are kept in.
i am not too sure i really go for it could be too big for the babies(just my personal thoughts). i bought the 100 gallon reptarium for my 18 panther male,from the get go and he has done fine.
i would get the biggest you can afford. and the biger the better that way they can "hunt" for thier food. as my breeder told me they will find food.

The breeder may have told you that, but I have a small little 38 gallon reptarium for my baby panther right now, in which I free range crickets and if I had gone any bigger to start, he wouldn't be able to locate his food. They hide all over, and many end up at the bottom. This is why I told Kyreg to start out with the large 100 gallon but cup feed. It is a safe way to be sure that your baby is getting food, while being economical with the cage.

 

[kyreg]

No no, what I mean is IF you cup feed, you could get the big one and have that be your only cage, otherwise the feeders will be to tough for your little one to find and you will have to start out with a smaller screen cage and get a larger one down the line. To make a cup feeder you can buy a deli cup, poke two holes in one side and attach it to a branch with a twisty tie. Put crickets in, dust and reattach to the branch each time you want to feed. Very easy! You can start free ranging the crix when your cham gets bigger and can find it's food more easily. That way you wont need to get two different cages and can start with and keep the large cage. Did that make sense?

Please do not keep her in that glass terrarium.

Oh no worries im not going to keep her in there,

This is the first time ive heard of cup feeding , so then this is what do . Buy a deli cup(wtha lid or no? ) and poke two holes..if there is a lid im guessing that is where the crickets come out?
and tie it to a branch...thats if i get the 100 gallon one this month.

 

[Tygerr]

This is my favourite design for a cup-feeder: Quick Feeder for tough customers

 

[kyreg]

This is my favourite design for a cup-feeder: Quick Feeder for tough customers

Thanks
Im just trying to understand how it works if the crickets can still get out and go all over the place?

 

[Tygerr]

If you make it properly (i.e. deep enough, and with enough space between the outer edges and the screen mesh), the crickets won't be able to escape.

They'll stay in the feeder cup and climb up the screen at the back, where they will make easy targets for your cham.

Every now and then there might be a cricket who will make a big jump out of the cup, but that happens very rarely. The thing about crickets is that they don't really jump unless they are threatened and are trying to escape. Once you've initially dumped them into the feeder cup, they'll settle down and stop jumping around. And by crawling alone, they won't be able to get out of the plastic container.

I use the same feeder cup for my roaches too. But for superworms and mealworms I use a much shallower container without mesh at the back.
I place silkworms directly onto branches or onto the screen of the cage.

 

[kyreg]

If you make it properly (i.e. deep enough, and with enough space between the outer edges and the screen mesh), the crickets won't be able to escape.

They'll stay in the feeder cup and climb up the screen at the back, where they will make easy targets for your cham.

Every now and then there might be a cricket who will make a big jump out of the cup, but that happens very rarely. The thing about crickets is that they don't really jump unless they are threatened and are trying to escape. Once you've initially dumped them into the feeder cup, they'll settle down and stop jumping around. And by crawling alone, they won't be able to get out of the plastic container.

I use the same feeder cup for my roaches too. But for superworms and mealworms I use a much shallower container without mesh at the back.
I place silkworms directly onto branches or onto the screen of the cage.

Ah , ok i understand now Thanks alot. Ill try it out !

 

[Kat77]

OR if you aren't innovative (I'm certainly not) you could just go and ask for a deli cup at your local grocer. You don't use the lid, and the crickets can't get out. The chameleon will sit on the edge of the cup and feed from there. Tygerr's idea is a great one! Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to give you more options.
Do you understand about the poking holes and the twisty tie attached to a branch? I don't know how well I explained that. The deli cup is also smaller and wont take up as much room in the enclosure. (NOT ripping on your idea at all Tygerr.)

 

[kyreg]

OR if you aren't innovative (I'm certainly not) you could just go and ask for a deli cup at your local grocer. You don't use the lid, and the crickets can't get out. The chameleon will sit on the edge of the cup and feed from there. Tygerr's idea is a great one! Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to give you more options.
Do you understand about the poking holes and the twisty tie attached to a branch? I don't know how well I explained that. The deli cup is also smaller and wont take up as much room in the enclosure. (NOT ripping on your idea at all Tygerr.)

Thank you!.
Yah i totally unerstand what your saying now.
I might try both and see which one she prefers?
Sound good?

 

[Kat77]

Thank you!.
Yah i totally unerstand what your saying now.
I might try both and see which one she prefers?
Sound good?

She will love you for it!

 

[Tygerr]

The deli cup is also smaller and wont take up as much room in the enclosure. (NOT ripping on your idea at all Tygerr.)

You can rip into my ideas if you want, but that wasn't my idea - I just copied it...

I thought I'd do an impromptu photo shoot to show the feeder cups I'm currently using. From left to right (clockwise from back): large feeder cup from 2litre plastic jug with screen mesh backing (for crickets and roaches), shallow feeder cup also from 2litre plastic jug with no screen (for super- and mealworms), regular 60W spot bulb (for size comparison), small plastic feeder cup for use in smaller enclosures (mainly for meal and superworms, but I have put baby crickets in it too), medium size feeder cup with screen mesh backing (though it is tall, it is narrow - works great for crickets/roaches in smaller enclosures).

As you will see, these ones need to be replaced soon. Eventually after continual washing, the screen tends to fall apart. Since it's hot-glued down, it's easier to simply re-make new ones than try to fix the screen. They're very cheap to make though.