Weird Poop

[Raffi]

My chamy is active, eats and drinks regularly. Yesterday I noticed his poop to be very unusual. I wanted to post a pic as soon as I could! HELP.


Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson, 7-8 months old
Handling - 1 time a week for about 10 min max
Feeding - im feeding him about a dozen to a dozen and a half crickets per day, i fed him 7-10 silkworms or hornworms on days i dont feed crickets.
Supplements - reptical without d3 everyday, with d3 twice a month, minerall once a month, reptitive once a month
Watering - mistking everymorning. he drinks from the dripper as its constantly on
Fecal Description - Brown matter with hard white composite with mucusy clear matter as well as crunchy orange matter inside the mucusy matter.
History - Been perfect
Cage Info: screen top, all glass terr.18 18 24
Lighting - zoomed 5.0 UV is about 7 months old and is on 7am - 7pm
Temperature - Top of the cage is 80-85, bottom is 70-75 Nightly temps are 50-60
Humidity - top of terrarium 40-50, bottom50-60
Plants - pothos, bromeliads.
Placement - near window with constant airflow.
Location - Glendale, Ca.

 

[Elizadolots]

ewww....that's weird. Are you sure that weirdness is the urate?

 

[Raffi]

yes it is, well i dissected it a little too much.

 

[Elizadolots]

Oh....whew....

Okay, well...I have a general rule that everyone is entitled to one bad poop or pee without the world deciding he's sick. I would definitely keep an eye on it. If it happens again, it looks like a vet visit.

 

[Solid Snake]

My chamy is active, eats and drinks regularly. Yesterday I noticed his poop to be very unusual. I wanted to post a pic as soon as I could! HELP.


Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson, 7-8 months old
Handling - 1 time a week for about 10 min max
Feeding - im feeding him about a dozen to a dozen and a half crickets per day, i fed him 7-10 silkworms or hornworms on days i dont feed crickets.
Supplements - reptical without d3 everyday, with d3 twice a month, minerall once a month, reptitive once a month
Watering - mistking everymorning. he drinks from the dripper as its constantly onYou just mist once a day? Or am I misunderstanding?
Fecal Description - Brown matter with hard white composite with mucusy clear matter as well as crunchy orange matter inside the mucusy matter.
History - Been perfect
Cage Info: screen top, all glass terr.18 18 24
Lighting - zoomed 5.0 UV is about 7 months old Time for a new one ^ ^and is on 7am - 7pm
Temperature - Top of the cage is 80-85, bottom is 70-75 Nightly temps are 50-60
Humidity - top of terrarium 40-50, bottom50-60
Plants - pothos, bromeliads.
Placement - near window with constant airflow.
Location - Glendale, Ca.

Supplements - reptical without d3 everyday, with d3 twice a month, minerall once a month, reptitive once a month

This is excessive supllementation for a jackson.

Use the reptical 2-3 times a week.
Use the reptical w/ D3 once every month and a half.
Use the reptivite maybe once a month.

What "minerall" are you using?

IMO, this odd poo is a sign that there is some sort of nutritional imbalance in the chameleon, and its body isnt functioning at 100%

Could you clarify your misting schedule?

 

[Elizadolots]

http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/-/sticky-tongue-minerall-indoor-formula/

That's my guess....it does look like it contains D3, but D3 3x a month isn't a game changer.

 

[Solid Snake]

http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/-/sticky-tongue-minerall-indoor-formula/

That's my guess....it does look like it contains D3, but D3 3x a month isn't a game changer.

No, but calcium everyday is.

 

[Raffi]

Miner-all by Stick Tongue Farms. Here's a pic http://www.herpsupplies.com/images/Miner-All I/indoor.jpg
And misting is 1-2 times daily. usually 7-7:30am and at 6:15pm
I agree, the reptical w/out d3 everyday might be excessive. I will listen to cutting down bc he does get natural sun 1-2 times a week.

 

[Raffi]

Also, I like to change up his diet and what hes eating once in a while. I go from 10-15 crickets daily to a mixture of 7-10 horn or silkworm daily/every other month. Maybe could have been the change in diet?

 

[Solid Snake]

That's miner-all

And misting is 1-2 times daily. usually 7-7:30am and at 6:15pm
I agree, the reptical w/out d3 everyday might be excessive. I will listen to cutting down bc he does get natural sun 1-2 times a week.

You will need to mist more for a jackson.
At least 3 times a day, for at least 5min at a time(for a MK).
This long dry period during the day could be contributing to his dehydrated looking poo.

Natural sun provides them with natural D3, it is impossible to overdose them on naturally acquired D3. It is however easy to OD them with D3 supplements. Jacksons dont seem to handle ANY supplementation very well.
I would stop all D3 supplements for an entire 6weeks.
This will give his system time to re-balance itself, then you can start giving him some D3, every 6 weeks.

A multivitamin should be used no more than once a month with them, if at all. The multivitamin generally provides a Vit A source, this can be given by natural means instead by offering carrot as a gutload once a month or so.

 

[Raffi]

wont he develope MBD if i give him repti cal without d3 every 6 weeks??? i know reptical with d3 should be less likely.

 

[Solid Snake]

wont he develope MBD if i give him repti cal without d3 every 6 weeks??? i know reptical with d3 should be less likely.

Im not exactly sure what your asking.

If you give him calcium only every 6 weeks, its possible he could develop MBD yes.

You should give him plain, phosphorous free calcium(with no D3), 2-3 times a week, with at least two days in between.

A D3 supplement should be used once every 6 weeks.

If the animal goes outside at all, this is more than enough.