Vieled vs Panther

[troolloll]

I just wanted to comment and say HELL YEAH TROLLFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I frigin love ragefaces. Forever alone is better though, if we want to describe chameleons. Or their owners (in some cases) lol.

HAHAH I KNOW RIGHT!? Jesus... I'm just a huge fan of it. And I guess my maturity level is being judged based on it. I should of been a fan of football instead. I was totally joking about the mirror thing btw.. I've bred leapard geckos, had a blizzard corn snake for about a year, raised 2 igunas, and had a bunch of tarantulas, a few scorpions and some dart frogs and I'm not going to lie I had the help of my dad to care for the frogs(their enclosures are a b****). I have a job, going to college, applied for financial aid and I'm about to move out soon and the only thing I will be having to start off is a bed, a couch, a tv, a microwave and a couple of dishes and a roommate that will be working fulltime.

I already have money seperated from my other finances specifically for the pet hobby. I'm actually on different forums right now deciding which one would be good for me.

And yes I think trollface is funny, I'm not judging anybody for collecting the aglet of shoelaces for the giggles.

 

[DavidBuchan]

HAHAH I KNOW RIGHT!? Jesus... I'm just a huge fan of it. And I guess my maturity level is being judged based on it. I should of been a fan of football instead. I was totally joking about the mirror thing btw............

Ok, I've never seen the video so post me a link up, I like infantile humour as much as the next man........I also was joking about the mirror thing, lol, I'm sure you can do a good job looking after a Cham if you are willing to do the research and a bit of work and spending on it - here's a really good caresheet with all the basic info you need for keeping a Veiled - https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/chameleonsinmyhouse/395-veiled-chameleon-care-sheet.html. Be sure to read part 2, it has gutloading info which is important........

 

[troolloll]

Thank you, but I have another question about humidity. Say if I have a certain tank that can maintain 55%+ do I still need to mist it? I've been able to do that with tarantula enclosures, but I know they are two different creatures.
EDIT:Without an auto-mister

 

[DavidBuchan]

Thank you, but I have another question about humidity. Say if I have a certain tank that can maintain 55%+ do I still need to mist it? I've been able to do that with tarantula enclosures, but I know they are two different creatures.
EDIT:Without an auto-mister

You will still have to mist it, or have a dripper for drinking water droplets on leaves is best.....they will occasionally drink from waterbowls, but so rarely it's pointless bothering with one. If you actually want to start trolling then tell us you're going to get a waterfall and it'll be ok to not clean it because it has a filter, lol..................

 

[troolloll]

I'm being serious. I was just wondering because with tarantulas, all you need to do is keep the supsbrate moist and the humidity will pretty much control itself and just add a waterbowl for drinking. I figured you can do the same thing with chameleons but from what you are telling me its extremely different. I haven't really dealt with anything that needed frequent misting for humidity control besides dart frogs so I'm curious.
And as for variety of consumables, I've been reading on here that people have caught insects from the outside and fed them to chameleons. And most people would know not to do this due to parasites and such. I wouldn't even feed my tarantula something from the outside, but if everyone here is doing it then I guess it wouldn't hurt to catch a couple of insects that fly around the patio lights.

 

[DavidBuchan]

I'm being serious.

Well, I'll make it official, then, I trust that you aren't a troll, lol. The humidity/drinking thing isn't very difficult for a veiled, if you have a good quality hand mister (pressure pump ones are best) and can spare 5 mins at least 3 times a day to mist you'll be ok for a Veiled........the parasite thing is an issue, care must be taken, discretion advised, etc. watch out for potential pesticides too......
Substrate is a minor controversial point (not like a water fall though, you don't want to accidentaly have a argument about that...). Most people say not to have any compost/ moss at all, just bare floor is fine. True, and it eliminates the risk of mould/ bacteria breeding, insects hiding in it, potential for the cham to eat it. On the upside it looks much nicer to have soil imho, and I'm aware of the risks and I know I can keep a check on it all, so I do.......

 

[skittles22]

Chameleons are very addictive. I started in june with my first (an ambilobe panther) and just last week i ordered a Nosy be from the Kammers, and i am looking to add to that also. i measured out the room i will be keeping them in and i could fit about 5 adult cages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DavidBuchan]

Chameleons are very addictive. I started in june with my first (an ambilobe panther) and just last week i ordered a Nosy be from the Kammers, and i am looking to add to that also. i measured out the room i will be keeping them in and i could fit about 5 adult cages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seconded. You might think you can just get one, but once you catch the bug it's not hard to get sucked into the addiction....anyone thinking of getting one ought to be warned........

 

[troolloll]

I like landscaping enclosures, but since I will be on a budget. I looked up simple enclosures and I think I will be doing something like this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30504001@N05/5201027908/

I can probably build one out of wood and window screen nets.

 

[DavidBuchan]

Looks ok, that's all you'll absolutely need.....If it were me I'd make sure to have a tube uv bulb (reptisun or reptiglo 5.0 - don't mess with the classics). Also live plants look miles better, and help with the humidity.....more leaves and branches than I see in the picture would be much better, and can be taken out to free up space when the Cham grows.....broad leaves are better for hiding and drinking from.......Pothos vine , or Schefflera, check on the safe plant list if you want to put something in......

 

[mychamybilo]

Well I'm no perfect pet owner but my Cham seems to be doing fine from what I'm seeing are the correct ways to do things on here, and he is my first pet that wasn't a fish or dog. I wouldn't say owning a Cham as your first reptile is impossible just follow the guides that the people who have been doing it for years have made for beginners and you'll do fine. IMO get a panther, more money but end result you'll have an awesome looking friend! My Nosy Be looks more colorful each day, one of my best investments I think. Good Luck!

 

[troolloll]

I'll try out a vieled as my first one. I don't want to make a mistake and have a panther poop out on me, I don't want to risk it

Well I have a pothos that hangs 2'1/2 feet. I'm going to hang it on the top of the cage and let it grow downwards along with some plastic vines and wooden branches with a UVB bulb. Once I pay for my books I will upgrade the decor and lighting.
Sorry but school comes first.