Veiled Chameleon fin

So, my son Steve (in the picture) has a deflated fin. When we got him, we did our research and found out he was male. But his fin is shrinking. And I don't know why. He's very well hydrated and misted (working on getting a fogger, currently hand misting him multiple times a day) and he always has access to a bowl of water which we refill throughout the day. I feed him around the same time every morning before school, at 6:30AM, and on weekends, around 8 or 9AM. We vary his diet and his enclosure seems pretty good for him, with plenty of shady spots to hide and high areas to perch and bask. But his fin is deflated regardless. It's not any stuck skin or lack of hydration, and he gets calcium once a week (I was told I shouldn't give it to him more than once, too much calcium=death)

Why could his fin be shrinking? Is he okay?

The third, grainy picture with a black background (my sweater lol) is him as baby, showing a tall fin.
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum! Could you post a pics of his whole body and enclosure please lights included. He doesn’t seem to be getting enough calcium. Which supplements are you using , please post a pic of the bottle, front and ingredients please.
He needs plain calcium daily (without d3)
And a vitamin A and d3 with calcium 2x a month usually. (1st &15th)

Your guys could possibly also have mbd due to lack of calcium) so I am thinking an exotic vet may be in order. His bones looks wonky in his arms and legs, but it could be the angle.

Sorry he is going through this if you would like a husbandry review we would gladly help make sure your guy is getting everything correct. Our keepers are great here.
 
How old was he when you got him?

You said…”he gets calcium once a week (I was told I shouldn't give it to him more than once, too much calcium=death)”…calcium once a week is not enough. It should be dusted on the insects at every feeding. That could be a big part of the problem.

How often does he get D3 dusted on the insects? Vitamin A? And what form of vitamin A…prEformed or prOformed? What specifically do you feed to the insects? What insects do you feed him? How many in a day?

Can you post some photos so I can see all of him from the side please?

What UVB light do you use and how long is it on every days. Is it the long linear one? What’s the basking temperatures? All lights off at night?
 
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So, my son Steve (in the picture) has a deflated fin. When we got him, we did our research and found out he was male. But his fin is shrinking. And I don't know why. He's very well hydrated and misted (working on getting a fogger, currently hand misting him multiple times a day) and he always has access to a bowl of water which we refill throughout the day. I feed him around the same time every morning before school, at 6:30AM, and on weekends, around 8 or 9AM. We vary his diet and his enclosure seems pretty good for him, with plenty of shady spots to hide and high areas to perch and bask. But his fin is deflated regardless. It's not any stuck skin or lack of hydration, and he gets calcium once a week (I was told I shouldn't give it to him more than once, too much calcium=death)

Why could his fin be shrinking? Is he okay?

The third, grainy picture with a black background (my sweater lol) is him as baby, showing a tall fin.
I would get rid of the water bowl, chameleons won't drink from it unless they're desperate, they rely on the fogger ran overnight for a few hours and misting the leaves so they drink of the leaves, I removed mine when I read that they won't drink from it as it's unnatural in the wild. From my research calcium dusted every feeding and forego the calcium once bi-weekly to feed them with multivitamins (I use reptivite with d3 and other vitamins every second Saturday and then go right back to feeding calcium with no D3 everyday since mine isn't 3 months old yet)
 
Hi there. I’m guessing that your chameleon has mbd, which is causing his casque to collapse. This is serious and it would be best to go over all of your husbandry in order to make sure everything is correct and/or corrected. If he indeed does have mbd, it is eventually fatal. It’s hard to tell due to the collapse, but his casque is also looking a bit obese, which is another serious concern that can drastically shorten his life. If you’d like to have your husbandry reviewed, copy/paste and answer the following questions. Btw, we don’t pass judgement here. :)
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:
  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
 
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