URGENT, Female veiled laying?

Update, i ended up turning the lights off last night and i just flipped them back on. I peeked at leaf last night after i turned them off and she fell asleep right at the bottom. She must have been exhausted. I just checked her out again and shes back at work filling the hole again. If i leave her alone until 1:30 do you think she'll be ok? The mister comes on at 8:30 and noon for 4 min. I tried to take off work yesterday but couldn't find anyone to fill for me so i work from 8-1 today.
 
update- im off to work but both eyes are open and shes filling in her hole beautifully and seems to have alot more energy now. I guess she needed that sleep last night. Her digging is actually doing some progress now, big shovels of sand with every stroke. The misters will give her a good spray down and ill tend to her at 1:30ish. ill give the egg count later too!
 
JUST GOT OFF WORK. I came back and she was on her perch just chillin, the eggs were completely covered. I took her out and put her in the shower but she didnt want anything to do with it. I weighed her and she weighs 101g and her last weigh in before she laid was 168g. so now IM GOING TO DIG THEM UP. Ill update in an hour or so. Also shes piggin out right now.
 
Hey that's great. Thanks for the update. She's a veiled, right? i guess 48 eggs. My last guess of 54 in your earlier thread was probably too high. Let us know.
 
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I'm guessing 52 eggs. If they're smaller eggs, they'll be around 1.5 grams each... throw in some variation, round up, add two so it doesn't seem like a random number = 52 eggs.
 
55 eggs guys. All are pretty small so im questioning whether or not they're fertile or not. They're the size of dimes except obviously ovalesk in shape. Theyre about the size of a panther egg. My females doing great. One of her eyes is open but she keeps bulging it out so im guessing theres sand in there. I just had her in the shower for a good 15min and i took her out cause shes running all over the place and very pissy. She still has her super firm grip and im very surprised how active she is after all the work shes done. I just fed her and she ate about 15 nicely dusted crickets so im pretty relieved now that its over. I'll continue to water her extra over the course of the day. I'll post back in like 20 min with some pics of mama and all the eggs.
 
I know gesang, you almost had it right one the nose! Heres some pics of the eggs and stuff. The flash makes them look alot more yellow then they actually are but they do kinda have a slight hue to them. What do you guys think? Leaf is all pissed and puffed up in the photo i took but i palpated the hell out of her and couldn't feel a thing cause she still looks loaded with eggs but she isnt. She lost 67g of egg weight. The fact the eggs are small and possibly infertile might have to do with her age. I bred her at about 5.5 months old so that could have alot to do with it. I guess we'll see how things go! Thanks all of you for the advice and responses. I asked a ton of questions at the end even though ive read so much about the whole process, whenever something happened i didnt know the answer to i asked and i thank all of you who addressed my questions.

heres some pics



heres my spyCHAM ;)
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and heres mama
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Those eggs look good to me.
But, what do I know ... I'm sitting on 27 ??? eggs for almost 7 weeks and still don't know about mine.:rolleyes:
Time will tell.
What is your incubation plan?
temps? constant the whole time or gradual increase to a certain temp?
Good luck!

-Brad
 
They look good. Brad - if they've been there for 7 weeks, and have not turned into a fungal-farm, chances are very good that they're good. Almost certainly fertile, too.

It's been my experience that infertle eggs do nothign but go bad after being laid. Fertile ones swell.

If she does not look emaciated after laying such a large clutch, that's an excellent sign.
 
eric thats really good to know. Shes still lively but i can tell shes pretty tired but compared to some other stories ive heard of post laying females, shes seemed to have gotten back on her feet very quickly. One of her eyes seems to be pretty irrated but shes keeping it open. I can see a grain of sand in there and ive sprayed and sprayed her but no breaking it loose yet. i just dont want it to get infected so if any of yall have any tips of clearing debris from their eyes im all ears. I really hope theyre fertile but they seem so small compared to what ive seen but of course ill keep a close eye on them. Brad, i plan on keeping them around 78 for the first 3 weeks, then dropping it to about 72 for another 6-8 weeks or so then slowly raise it up until about 78 79ish again and leave it there for the duration. Im curious to see if that will pop them out of menopause. What do you think of my plan? Summoner, i was thinking that when i was watching her on the camera. she dug right underneath the camera and i literally saw a few eggs drop out of her vent not even lying. Its amazing too because earlier in the evening she covered the lense i was like ahhhhh crap cause i didnt want to have to peek in. I waited longer and she ended up brushing the sand off the lense and it was pointing right down by her head and when she turned around it was the perfect view. Im just really happy its over. Now the hardest part is left.... waiting.
 
Look good to me! Our panther cham eggs look crisp and white like a chicken egg. Our veiled eggs have a smoother, sort of oily look to them and are a tad bit more yellow. We haven't had anything hatch yet but the veiled eggs we have that look like that have swelled (swollen?) nicely.
 
Nicodemayo said:
Brad, i plan on keeping them around 78 for the first 3 weeks, then dropping it to about 72 for another 6-8 weeks or so then slowly raise it up until about 78 79ish again and leave it there for the duration. Im curious to see if that will pop them out of menopause. What do you think of my plan? .
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Interesting.
I will be wanting to know how that goes and what the incubation period ends up being.
I have been keeping mine at 68 degrees and plan to start climbing (slowly) to 72 over the next three weeks.

-Brad
 
I've tried a lot of methods - and I've found the best to be a stable closet. Get a disposable ziplock container, put semi moist vermiculite in there, and seal it up. Enough air comes in if you open it every couple weeks. I have never tried temps as low as 68. They've reached it, at night, but never consistently.

Generally, I shoot for low 70's the whole time. Got to be careful about increasing the temps. Only time that happened to me, the things hatched too soon and were "unfinished".

Any temp between 70 and 80 will be fine for sure, I have hatched them at those temps personally. I'd try to keep it below 80 though - youll have bigger and stronger babies.

Yeah, you can hatch them a month earlier if you incubate them warm, but they'll be eating pinheads for sure!

By the wa - if she's eating, that's great. I would not feed her so much so soon though. Much better off feeding her smaller amounts. wiht 15 crickets, she might puke.
 
gesang said:
Wo. I was closer with my first guess of 54. Congratulations! They may be fertile. You'll just have to wait a few weeks and see.
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Actually, wouldn't be a couple of days before they cave in and start to die?
 
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