too weak

sparly

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Our male Jackson was seemingly perfecttly healthy last night, this morning he seems too weak to really even move. we have a call into the vet, but any thoughts in the mean time would be greatly apreciated.:(
 
Has he been eating and drinking?? Please fill out this form so that experienced keepers can help you.


Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
 
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
**Jackson Chameleon, male, unknown age (assume young adult). We have had since late December. The breeder we purchased then from never would give me an answer as to age.
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
**We generally only have touch contact once or twice a week.
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
**We feed live crickets bought from pet store, and occasional mealworms (also bought at pet store --Timberline brand). We give our two Jacksonsons a dozen crickets a week. We put the live crickets in the cage dusted with vitamins, in the cage and allow the chameleons to hunt.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
** Zoo Meds- Repti-Calcium, and Rep-Cal... Herptivite w/ beta carotene advanced formultion multivitamins
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
**We mist our chameleons three times daily with purified water with Zoo-med"s Reptisafe instant terrarium water conditioner. We see them licking the leaves of the plants in the enclosure.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
** Stools have been mostly black in color and oval shaped. occasional white stools after mealworm feedings. We have not had chameleons tested for anything since we got them.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
** Our chameleons have shared an enclosure since before we got them., once we beleive that they mated and upon the advise of more experienced owners, we seperated them.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
** screen 25" x 25" x25"
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
** Zoo med dual light system, 10-12 hrs day light, 10-12 hrs red night light.
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
** 72-80 degrees, we have constant thermometer and hydrometer in enclosures.
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
** humidity stays at aprox 80%
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
We are using only artificial plants
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
** cage is located in a low traffic area, opposite the room from air vents. The cage top is 36" aproximately from floor.
Location - Where are you geographically located?
** We live in Jacksonville, FL

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
 
We lost our sweet boy. We spoke to the vet, and tried the ideas she gave us. Before any of them could be effective, he passed. We are devistated. Our little boy was so healthy looking yesterady and last night, and then suddenly this morning it all changed. Thank you for the help you guys have offered. We are going to make some changes to hopefully keep our little girl going strong.
 
I am so very sorry to hear that your boy passed. I understand your pain as I lost my male veil boy yesterday and my female is gravely ill.

I would suggest that since your male and female were originally housed together that you at the very least have a fecal done on her by a qualified reptile veterinarian. Not just a fecal float but a fecal smear as well. Although she may appear to be healthy, just as he was, they could have the same issue. You might also consider having your male sent off for a necropsy (autopsy) to determine what happened too so that you know exactly what happened.

Again my heart is with you during the sad and difficult time.
 
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