I got my first chameleons in 1992. I've been keeping and breeding hoehnelii for more than 5 years. I had a clutch of 10 about 8 months ago. I divided them into small groups of 2 or 3 keeping males with males and females with females when they were between 3 and 4 months of age. The males color up earlier than the females. I was keeping my eye on a couple of males that looked very promising. The pictured Cham below being one of them. One of the nicest males is now gravid!! How can this happen? Yeah, I'm an expert DUMB ASS!!