stella laid 70 eggs?

[JGuinan007]

I must say I am not getting this either. You realize that temps are hot and cold depending on the day, and they eat 1 or 2 times a week if they are lucky. In the wild they do not have 4+ clutches a year, if you overfed and overheat they will. That isn't natural for them however.

You are trying to humanize what you think is a better life, and your version goes against the nature of the animal so better, no not by a long shot.

This is not a human, it is a reptile. One that in nature goes weeks without eating. That is there natural behavior, who are you to say you know better than nature?

No really what I am saying is my chameleon had 48 eggs her 1st clutch I was told this was too much and to lower temps and feed less which I did basking temp around 74-76 and feed less about 4 roaches every other day (maybe less when i used other feeders also). So after doing this my chameleons next clutch actually increased to 60 eggs and all the while she always looked thin and starving yet still managed to have 60 eggs. So now I have brought up her temps to 75-80 basking and feed about 5-6 roaches every other day and my cham looks more healthy and moves around more. So I will continue on this way as I feel its best for my chameleon.

 

[cyberlocc]

No really what I am saying is my chameleon had 48 eggs her 1st clutch I was told this was too much and to lower temps and feed less which I did basking temp around 74-76 and feed less about 4 roaches every other day (maybe less when i used other feeders also). So after doing this my chameleons next clutch actually increased to 60 eggs and all the while she always looked thin and starving yet still managed to have 60 eggs. So now I have brought up her temps to 75-80 basking and feed about 5-6 roaches every other day and my cham looks more healthy and moves around more. So I will continue on this way as I feel its best for my chameleon.

75-80 is perfect for a basking temp if its a Veiled or Panther, female.

6 roaches, that is alot of food. 1 Dubia is equivalent to 6 crickets, that is alot of food, too much food.

Can you show us a pic of your skinny cham? How are you judging she is skinny? They can flatten there body and look skinny and they are suppose to. If the cham looks chunky that is not good thing its a bad thing.

 

[jannb]

I recommend the basking temps in the low 80's for females....82 to 83. They need to be warm enough to digest their food. Feed 3 times a week about what you were feeding in one day. Variety is better if you can get feeders besides crickets. I have a few blogs below that you might find useful.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-female-veiled.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/entry/egg-laying-and-the-laying-bin.345/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-with-young-veiled-or-panther-chameleons.325/

 

[JGuinan007]

Well not exactly 5-6 roaches that was just shorter to write she eats every other day 3 Dubias (not adult as they are too big nymphs the size of her mouth) and 1 super worm with 1-2 horn worms or 2-3 silk worms a week all dusted with calcium, once a month calcium with d3 and once a month multivitamin with d3 the supers horns and silks are feed on off days (not dubia days) and switched up depending on what I have and if they are big enough or too big also they are not put in feeder cup so she can hunt them(dubias stay in feeder cup).
I don't have a pic of her skinny since she in now eating more and looking healthy and i'ts hard to get a pic right now without her puffing up (she does not like the phone)

 

[cyberlocc]

View attachment 160721 View attachment 160722 Well not exactly 5-6 roaches that was just shorter to write she eats every other day 3 Dubias (not adult as they are too big nymphs the size of her mouth) and 1 super worm with 1-2 horn worms or 2-3 silk worms a week all dusted with calcium, once a month calcium with d3 and once a month multivitamin with d3 the supers horns and silks are feed on off days (not dubia days) and switched up depending on what I have and if they are big enough or too big also they are not put in feeder cup so she can hunt them(dubias stay in feeder cup).
I don't have a pic of her skinny since she in now eating more and looking healthy and i'ts hard to get a pic right now without her puffing up (she does not like the phone)

Wait I am confused by the "Off Days" She should only be fed every other day. Not even a male should be fed everyday. Sounds like you are saying everyday?

 

[JGuinan007]

yes if she get 3 dubia on weds thurs she get 1-2 silk worms then on fri she gets 3 dubia then on sat she gets 1 super worm then on Sunday 3 dubia then on monday 1 horn worm and so on.. And the off day feeders vary depending on what I have on hand-whats wrong with feeding everyday?

 

[cyberlocc]

yes if she get 3 dubia on weds thurs she get 1-2 silk worms then on fri she gets 3 dubia then on sat she gets 1 super worm then on Sunday 3 dubia then on monday 1 horn worm and so on.. And the off day feeders vary depending on what I have on hand-whats wrong with feeding everyday?

Ya that is feeding too much, not just for a female for a male too.

They are not going to starve, again they eat 2 times a week a couple of small things in the wild. They should not being eating that much. Healthy is there nature and there nature is not eating everyday.

At any rate, myself and others have provided you with the facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. Search the forums "Overfeeding" to see all the problems it can cause, eggs are just the start. I wish you and your cham luck, I hope you look more into the care of Chameleons and feeding schedules for the chams best interest.

 

[JGuinan007]

So it would be ok to feed 3 dubia and a horn worn on weds nothing on thurs friday 3dubia and 2 silkworms and sat nothing and so on.

 

[cyberlocc]

So it would be ok to feed 3 dubia and a horn worn on weds nothing on thurs friday 3dubia and 2 silkworms and sat nothing and so on.

Not really, that is too much food. 3 Dubia on Wednesday is plenty of food, then say 1 horn worm and 2 silkies on Friday then Saturday nothing and so on.

What you have to realize is that chameleons are opportunistic eaters. They will eat way way more than they need and store it for later when they cant find food. In the wild this is okay, in captivity it is not, as they will store food and never use the extra fat buildup.

A chameleon can go a month+ without eating anything and be fine, I promise feeding less is not starving it.

 

[Daschmidt]

My 1.5yo veiled laid 70 eggs on her first go! She's never been around a male so I know they're not fertile. What can I do so she doesn't lay so many? Is it bad for her?

Holy freeholee that's a lot of eggs I don't think is normal is serving them up on a plate with salt and pepper

 

[cyberlocc]

Holy freeholee that's a lot of eggs I'm pretty sure that's normal what I don't think is normal is serving them up on a plate with salt and pepper

I mean it looks nutritious meal

 

[Fiona's Mom]

yes if she get 3 dubia on weds thurs she get 1-2 silk worms then on fri she gets 3 dubia then on sat she gets 1 super worm then on Sunday 3 dubia then on monday 1 horn worm and so on.. And the off day feeders vary depending on what I have on hand-whats wrong with feeding everyday?

What age should they go to every other day? Fiona is 6-7 months and I have been feeding her every day...in fact she is waiting by her food cup 1st thing every morning.

 

[cyberlocc]

What age should they go to every other day? Fiona is 6-7 months and I have been feeding her every day...in fact she is waiting by her food cup 1st thing every morning.

about 6-7 months.

 

[Fiona's Mom]

about 6-7 months.

Thank you...I guess I'm going to have on disappointed chameleon tomorrow. Can you suggest how much of what...right now I have crickets, superworms, butter worms, & horn worms.

 

[cyberlocc]

Thank you...I guess I'm going to have on disappointed chameleon tomorrow. Can you suggest how much of what...right now I have crickets, superworms, butter worms, & horn worms.

IDK really depends on the cham, just feed less is the goal. You can feed as much as you have just do it every other day instead of everyday.

 

[Nicholasdeaan]

70℉ is a tad to low for a female panther or Veiled. As stated above, 80-83℉ is more ideal. I would feed my females every other day, 5-6 large crickets along with a super, dubia, and etc. With lower basking temps, it slows their metabolism. Making them not want to each as much.

 

[JoeVet]

Many reptile vets would love to see females preventavely spayed. We do it for cats and dogs and its so much more dangerous in chameleons.

 

[JGuinan007]

ok