Slow Growing Veiled?

Lancelot117

New Member
Hi guys. Im new to chameleons. I have one named naveen. Hes and awesome little guy! love love him alot! i have a worry though. Everytime i research these guys, i just constantly ready how fast they grow and how they can be sub adult size at like 8 months? i look at mine, and think, geesh hes not growing that fast. i love the guy though. i just want to show him to ya'll and see what you think. i would love to have a big lizard!


Ive been on this forum before, so i'll fill out the help form ;)

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled Cham. Male. Since late January.

Handling - Probably every other day. Hes really docile. Doesnt ever hiss, or get puffed. He just climbs on my hand. I feel very fortunete (misspell i know...) that i got such an awesome tempered one :)

Feeding - Mostly crickets. 6-10 1/4-3/8 inch crickets daily. Some free range, some in the cup. Hes cup trained, but i free range some to give him some excitment in life ;). I live an hour from the petstore. so i just go in every two weeks and load up on crickets. All the other stuff they have there is full grown. I feed him wild insects. flies and beetles and such. i started this about a month ago, but the weather has got cold and i havnt found any for the last week. so, mainly crickets. i want variety though.

Supplements - ReptoCal by tetra fauna. its calium and D3. 1 time a week.
Rep - Cal herptivite. once every 2 weeks (only 1 or 2 crickets dusted)
Zoo med calcium without D# 1 - 2 times a week.

Watering - Drip and mist. i give him distilled water cause hes fancy. i have the dripper run for about 2 hours a day, and i mist about... 4 times a day probably.
I have only seen him acctually drink twice in my life. the first time was when i first got him from the store.

Fecal Description - Freakin' huge! i dont understand how that guy has such big craps! its the lenth of his arm sometimes! anyways he dumps about once a day. his urine package thing is white. Its never been tested. But i will probably have that done sometime. once hes big enough to eat the other feeders at the store, ill stop using wild bugs.

History - got him at zamzows (a local store here in idaho). in late january. he appeared to be less than two months old by quite a bit, yet older than a month... so i think THINK he was hatced in december probably.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen enclosure. 16 x 16 x 32. ill get a bigger one once he gets bigger. if he ever gets bigger...

Lighting - both lights are 12 hours a day. 75 watt incondesent for the heat. The uvb light is a zilla tropical 25 T8. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YIWNZI...e=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B000YIWNZI

he can also get about 6 inches from both lights.

Temperature - I wish it could be warmer. but its hard to make a screen cage warmer than my house! his basking spot is 83. the cage floor is 68. Night temps... never measured. but my house is set to 69 at night and 72 at day.

Humidity - around 50 % 'nuff said

Plants - pothos and dracnea

Placement - bedroom. about 5 feet from the floor.

Location - Idaho

Problem: hes 6 inches head to tail. 3 head to vent. and ive had him for 3 months. i assume he was about a month and a half when i got him. (hes about doubled in size since then) so i think he is about 4.5 months

Im just checking to see what you all think. Im new to this. I want him to be healthy. i love the guy. hes got awesome color. in full color, hes spine becomes bright orange with black striping. its wicked cool. he also has this "S" right on his side which is cool. Is he just small? or should i be doing something else? or is he just growing right along and i have nothing to fret about? he looks healthy to me...

So im checking on his progress. Am i doing everything right? Is he growing slow? Any thing i could do better?

PS. im posting pics in my next post.

Last thing i want to add. I dont want to steal this guys thunder, cause he sounds like he has a worse problem than mine! https://www.chameleonforums.com/small-veiled-108593/

Thanks everyone!
Lancelot!
 

SaintJimmy

Avid Member
His size is completetly fine. I do recommend making the basking spot a little hotter by the time he is 5 months old though.

He is not small at all.
 

Lancelot117

New Member
Are you sure. when i look at the picture of naveen on my hand, i look how small he is compared to my fingernail.
when i look at this other pic of the veiled (not naveen) which is between (4-5 months) makes me nausuious and compare it with naveen... i feel sick!

 

KingJulian

New Member
He looks good to me. And you said he's doubled his size since January, which is awesome because I had the hardest time getting mine to eat during the cold weather! Now that it's warm, he doesn't want to stop eating. lol. If he's shedding, that means he's growing :)
 

Lancelot117

New Member
He looks good to me. And you said he's doubled his size since January, which is awesome because I had the hardest time getting mine to eat during the cold weather! Now that it's warm, he doesn't want to stop eating. lol. If he's shedding, that means he's growing :)
Thanks King Julian. Yeah hes definetly shedding. Well thanks for the reasurane guys i feel allitle better. I guess im just a worried parent lol. :D

Im going to start doing calcuim everyday. Calcium and D3 twice a week. And herptivitamin every 2 weeks. There is so much info on suplimenting, and i dont need it right now, just one simple question! how many crickets should get dusted?
 

Lancelot117

New Member
Hey! Should i move the cage in front of a window to give him more heat?


Me, "Naveen! Im going to start feeding you more so you get big and fat!" Naveen, "*looks at me indifferently*"
 

KingJulian

New Member
I have mine next to a window. During the day when I'm home I open the cage up and hang a vine from the cage up to the curtain rod, in a J shape almost, and he loves being able to go in and out of the cage. Also the D3 should only be given once a month. Too much causes health problems :)
 

pssh

Avid Member
I would use the D3 once a week and plain calcium at every feeding. A multivitamin every 2 weeks is fine.

He looks fine, but he could eat more if you want. I would feed him mostly non wild insects if possible. Crickets can be purchased by 250-1000 or more online in bulk for cheap. Other feeders would be a good idea too. Superworms, silkworms, hornworms, mealworms as treats, mantids, house flies and blue bottle flies, and pheonix worms would all be good choices. Wild insects carry the risk of parasites and pesticides. Getting parasites could possibly slow his growth or stunt it pretty much all together.
 
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