sick babie

[vieldlover]

i have 2 babies ,both less that a mnth old i bought less than aweek ago
the one seems to always have her eyes closed in the day and only bask
ive tryed everything
im even feeding her babie food to keep her nutrients up
any ideas on why she is not doing well,the other one seems to be thriving
yet to see either eat pinheads im feeding them though they seem to be missing from tank so im assuming they are
any ideas to help her out would be great thanks

 

[Julirs]

Answer the following:

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage construction (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and type of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Location - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.

 

[vieldlover]

cage info:
cage type:- glass terrarum exo terra 18X18X24my house is dry and i have trouble keeping them in a mesh one for this reason though i like to (i plan on moving them to seprate cages when there 4 mtnhs old of a larger size)
lighting- 2 exo terra 5.0 uvb lights, a basking heat light (exo terra 75 w daylight spot
and at night a 75 wmoonlight cage stays round 80 lighting schedule is 4 am to 6 pm with uvb lights on an day spot and night i turn off uvb and dayheat and switch to the night spot
it gets cold in my apartment so i have to keep the heat on to keep there cage at 70 to 80
tempertatues- night 70 min day 80 cooler at bottom of cage but they always both seem to be at the top al the time
humidity- 50% i cant seem to get it higher though i try have added a med waterfall, buying a foger on friday and have a home made dripper from acup with a pin hole on the top
plants- i have a mix 2 pothos one in front one in back 4" size and a fake one hanging on the back wall
location- beside bedroom its a low traffic area and has cage put on the stand that was made for it its about half way between ceiling and floor not near any vents or fans

chameleon info:
my chameleon-have 2 think theres one of each sex though hard to tell at there age even vet had troubles when i took them initally from bringing them home, there 2/3 weeks old approx.have been in my care for bout a week
had a 1 1/2 yr old previously untill my sister took her as she wanted one
handling:i try to handle them least once a day but not too much as i know there babies and also destreessing
feeding- was feeding 20 pinhead crickets once a day in morning gut loaded with crcket feed from the store though i stick in crrots once and a while
supplienents- not useing any as i was told not to as there young enough that the crickets give enough nutrients if gut loaded though i do have calcuim plus powder for chameleons by repashy superfoods and calciumize conditioner i use inthere water made by exoterra
water- i have a med waterfall as well as i mist them 2 ce a day 3 inches a wat for 30 sec at a time
poop- is small as htere tiny
ive seen yellow drops but usually is brown
and my problem-
one seems fine but the other babie seems to not want to eat or drink and has her eyes closed all the time shes growingly getting weaker and her grip is looser everyday

 

[Julirs]

Do you have a digital thermometer with a probe to get accurate temps? That is alot of wattage and you do not want temps above 80. No night light/heat unless you apartment is dropping much below 65 at night. Again, if you have an analog thermometer I would worry about temps being too high-it is easy to cook/dehydrate babies. Ditch the waterfall-they are bad bacterial messes. I would cut handling all together until they are a bit older. Yellow in the poop means dehydration and you need to mist (use warm water-hot out of the tap equals warm mist) several times daily soaking the plants and wetting the babies but not overly so. Your Vet should have been able to sex Veileds. You DO need to supplement as babies. Gutload with sweet potatoes, dark leafy greens (no spinach), apples, oranges, etc.

 

[Fred]

WOW!! Who sold u babies so young?!! I know the waterfall needs to go- its useless and harbors bacteria. I would get a dripper for a constant H2O source. Where are u from? U should fill that out on your profile as it will help people to give u better advice based on climate etc. I don't think a night light (heat) is necessary unless your bedroom gets below 60F but maybe its differt for babies, someone with more experience will chime in about that, also u should be dusting the crickets there is a scedule on here somewhere for babies, u can find it if u use the search button. Also a great website to check out with alot of important info is http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/

 

[vieldlover]

i check the temp quite often its never above 80 thanks bout the info on the waterfall diched it immed after reading that so the home made drippers ok or would u reccomend something else
it try to mist every day 2 ce at least

 

[kinyonga]

Are you putting calciumize conditioner in the water you are misting them with? What exactly is it?

 

[vieldlover]

yes i am putting calcium conditioner in the water im misting them with misting them from a distance bout 10-20 inches away

 

[Julirs]

I am not sure that was designed as a water additive that people should be misting with. I would discontinue in case it is causing eye issues, as well as removing the compact bulb if that is what you have. Both of them could be causing the one to have eye issues.

 

[kinyonga]

Re: water additive...exactly what I was asking for Julirs.

 

[skeeta]

If you get a chance a picture of your set-up will make it easier to help you.
Those babies are REALLY young to deal with, so much to be aware of, listen to the experts here.
Rather than a fogger, get a cool mist humidifier to help out with the humidity.
Same price and WAYYYY better. (you can find one that will fit a PVC pipe ... do a SEARCH to see what I mean)

C A L C I U M daily on the cricks (no D3) Yes read the kitty blog!

You can do it Canuk! (Ooooooh CaaaaaNaaaDaaaaa ... Yay GSP!)