Rudis babies help!

[Anilr16]

Okay, so as all you somewhat know, I have a gravid female Rudis. But I thought I knew everything about care of the neonates until I talked to "Firstchoicereptiles.com" breeder, Nick Mole. He was saying that babies shouldnt be housed together and their hard to care for. Can any expreienced keepers of these montane species certify everything I should be aware of/ know on raising these little guys when they drop?

Thanks a million, Anil

 

[eisentrauti]

You can also raise them in little groups till 5 animals per group. You need a perfect water supply and always little feeders, which should be gut-loaded and well supplemented
Too high temperatures could kill them very fast. Never over 25-26°C for longer periods

 

[Anilr16]

You can also raise them in little groups till 5 animals per group. You need a perfect water supply and always little feeders, which should be gut-loaded and well supplemented
Too high temperatures could kill them very fast. Never over 25-26°C for longer periods

About food...I hear its a pain. Because they cant go a day without eating. and also, I heard if I stick a little deli cup with a piece of fruit I can catch fruit flies..this true? If so, where should I place my bait outside to catch these suckers???

 

[Anilr16]

And is it possible to raise a trio from birth and them tolerating each other in the future?

 

[chambabysitter1]

About food...I hear its a pain. Because they cant go a day without eating. and also, I heard if I stick a little deli cup with a piece of fruit I can catch fruit flies..this true? If so, where should I place my bait outside to catch these suckers???

No, I think you misread. That was how to keep fruitflies from leaving the cage, not how to catch free food.

 

[eisentrauti]

No, it's also possible to catch fruit flies this way. The juvenils won't die when they got one day nothing to eat, but this shouldn't happen too often.
I think it's very hard to distinguish the sex of them so early and you will get at the beginning other problems than this one.

 

[dondeb562]

I raised mine in a group just fine. Ate like little pigs. Fed mainly on flightless fruitflies till about 3 months old then started eating crickets (though they would take there fruit flies over the crickets any day). They are more demanding then other baby chams, but not impossible to raise. I had the experts on this forum tell me if you can get them past 12 weeks then they are past the more fragile stage. There are many breeders on here that raise them as well. All baby chams should eat daily anyways since they grow so rapidly, and as long as there humidity is pretty high and the temps are low you should be good. Depending on the size cage you will not need a high wattage. If I remember correctly I only had a 25 watt on them They did great for me till I placed them in new homes

 

[eisentrauti]

It's also good to give them a spot just a few times per day for an half hour, best is you place them on an north or east window

 

[Anilr16]

Well...can anyone tell me some specific elements I should know as to keeping the little guys soon as they drop?

 

[Damaranum]

Hi,

I breeded quite a lot of sternfeldi. (not rudis but I asume you've got sternfeldi as well).
I kept the babies in groups up to 10 animals the first weeks in terrariums from 25x40x60 or 40x40x60 (in cm.) and when they grew bigger I splitted them in males and females (which I could see after 2 - 3 months).

I gave them a spot for all day with interventions of 1 hour on and 1 off. And early morning 3 hours after eachother. With food I mainly feeded fruit flies (breed those myself) and after 1,5 month they could eat crickets but I prefered flies. Day temperatures where between 18 and 26 degrees depending on season and night between 10 and 17 degrees depending on season. I feeded every other day. Every day feeding is possible but I found them growing to fast then. For long living that ain't very well is my opinion.

You can catch fruit flies by putting some fruit outside in the garden, and just wait a few days. But there's a little chance you'll catch enough to feed your babies.

Good luck with them when they are born. I hope this helps a little.

Steven

 

[Anilr16]

Hi,

I breeded quite a lot of sternfeldi. (not rudis but I asume you've got sternfeldi as well).
I kept the babies in groups up to 10 animals the first weeks in terrariums from 25x40x60 or 40x40x60 (in cm.) and when they grew bigger I splitted them in males and females (which I could see after 2 - 3 months).

I gave them a spot for all day with interventions of 1 hour on and 1 off. And early morning 3 hours after eachother. With food I mainly feeded fruit flies (breed those myself) and after 1,5 month they could eat crickets but I prefered flies. Day temperatures where between 18 and 26 degrees depending on season and night between 10 and 17 degrees depending on season. I feeded every other day. Every day feeding is possible but I found them growing to fast then. For long living that ain't very well is my opinion.

You can catch fruit flies by putting some fruit outside in the garden, and just wait a few days. But there's a little chance you'll catch enough to feed your babies.

Good luck with them when they are born. I hope this helps a little.

Steven

Thank you so much Steven. I have a 10 gallon. and im going to be aquiring a couple more in the coming week. of course, as they grow older ill move my remainders of the clutch to screen cages. But how much babies should be in a ten gallon? And my female is still eating, but is so ROUND. lol. Do all rudis or sternfeldi stop eating days/weeks before birth? My last female stopped for about a month, but died of a respiratory infection
So...whats your experience?

 

[Damaranum]

Hi,

I don't really know how big 10 gallon is so can't give you advice on that one.
In my experience they can eat the day before they give birth. Sometimes they stop for a week or so. But a month is really to long.

Steven

 

[Anilr16]

Okay. Is there anything youve noticed the female doing hours or so before she gives birth? I know weeks before, they bask upsode down, walk around more often etc. what have you came across?

 

[eisentrauti]

Nearly all females stop eating the last days before the birth. Then they often start to hide very active through the hole enclosure. The birth often happens in the early morning hours

 

[Anilr16]

Alright thanks.!