Rescue Veiled MBD
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Nicholasdeaan
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She isn't sick by my doings. I just took her in yesterday. She'll be getting proper supplements and feeders. Thanks though.
Nicholasdeaan
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Should I not be or???
absolutbill
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From what I've read, no you shouldn't. When they are ready to lay they can't be disturbed otherwise they could tense up (not the right wording, but I think you get my meaning), and won't lay the eggs, becoming eggbound. I know you said she's free-ranged, but maybe putting her in a cage with the lay bin until she's totally done laying would be a good idea. I'm afraid the constant moving her back and forth is just going to stress her out. Good luck!
Nicholasdeaan
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I get what you're saying. I guess there's some controversy on this subject. Other members say they have luck when moving theirs back and forth, once a day to their laying bin with free ranged chams. If they don't lay, they take them out and try again in a day or 2. While I then see you and amongst others saying to not move her period. Hmm. And I don't have a cage available unfortunately. And i feel putting her in a cage and new environment would stress her out since I've only had her for 3 days. She ate 5 crickets today 1 of which was injected with 2 drops of liquid calcium and the others dusted.
Nicholasdeaan
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Alright I'll give that a go and see what happens. Only trouble will be figuring how to suspend. I have plastic sheeting suspended to catch water. I'll figure it out! Thanks for the advice and idea! I'll keep you updated.
Nicholasdeaan
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The laying bin. I have sheeting towards the bottom of the tree wrapped around it to catch and funnel water. I had to suspend the bin above that. So I hung a good sized branches horizontally across the plastic sheeting and the bin is sitting on that. That's the lowest point she can climb to. Do you think she'll use it?
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jajeanpierre
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There is no controversy.
Moving a chameleon from one cage/enclosure to another stresses them. Stress stops them from going into labor. Delaying labor drastically increases the chance of egg binding, which is fatal. Your chameleon has soooooo many problems, laying will be an incredible challenge for her in the best circumstances. Just getting the eggs out of her body will be a bigger challenge for her than for a healthy female. You do not want to do anything that will make it even more difficult for her.
This chameleon came to you in the last day or so which in itself is very challenging. Please put her somewhere safe where she can easily get to a laying bin and make that bin easy for her to get to. And then, leave her alone.
The pictures of your egg bin look as if she will have to do a lot of gymnastics to get to it--not a good idea for her in her condition.
May I suggest you get a big plastic garbage can, fill a foot deep in a mix of coco fiber or peat and soil (lighter than sand and easier to dig) of the right dampness to hold a tunnel. Put her free range tree right in the gabage can. Stick some sticks into the ground (they like to lay at the base of plants) and around those sticks, did holes at a 45 degree angle about six inches deep.
Do you have proper lighting for her? Did you get the liquid calcium from the vet?
Good luck. She's going to need it.
Nicholasdeaan
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I've seen a lot of people on here remove their chams from their enclosures and set them into a laying bin. And if not successful the first day, put them back in it a day or two later with success. I realize it stresses them. I never said that it doesn't. But people do success with that method. She's got all the lighting and such needed. No worries there. No I didn't, it's some that I had all ready. I'm injecting her feeders with about 2 drops. I'll do what you suggest and put her tree in a garbage can. I just hate to have to move it around and change her environment again.
Nicholasdeaan
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Well she just made her way down to the bin she's digging around atm. @jajeanpierre I guess I should have mentioned and shown the of the back of the tree. There's large branches and vines that go down to the bin. She made it there no problem. Now tonight I just shut the lights off without disturbing her and turn them on in the morning as usual and she should continue digging correct? I'm 99.99% certain just want to make sure I'm doing it 100% correctly.
Nicholasdeaan
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Just an update she still hasn't layed yet. She's eating and drinking like a champ though. Don't most chams go off eating when they're ready to lay? She's been going in and out of her laying bin constantly. Digging around and filling in all the holes that I dug for her. I made a large bin out of a gray tote. So I don't feel the size of the bin is the issue. Is she just not ready not? She's at 98 grams right now. I just don't want her to become eggbound. Any help is appreciated!
