Reptaid question

[martyllian]

Hey all,

Was wondering about injecting Reptaid into a grape. I don't see why it shouldnt work. I tried it, and the liquid stays in, and Norman ate it.

Is there any other reason this wouldn't be a good idea?

 

[jojackson]

The site recomends injecting feeders but same result. dont see why not.

I dont put much stock in such products, nor in the veracity of claims made by the manufacturers anyway, I wouldnt ever use it myself.

was dissappointed to see this written on the site in bold red

If your animal is currently ill please request priority or express mail.

http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/reptaid4.htm

If your animal is currently ill, dont rely on such crap, get it to a vet!

 

[sandrachameleon]

The only problem I would foresee is that grapes are very high in sugars, and hence not a good thing to feed to your chameleon more than as an infrequent treat.

I've had good results from Reptaid for getting rid of pinworms in an adult male panther. I also credit it for a good full overdue shed on an animal that had had a skin leision issue. https://www.chameleonforums.com/any-feedback-reptaid-20334/

 

[ToniandGizmo]

I ordered Reptaid a while back, just so that I could keep it on hand. After my purchase I was sent an email by the company asking that I document my usage of it. For example: Type of cham, its age and weight, enclosure information, what the problem was, and the outcome after using their product. It appears to me that these folks care very much about their product and are continually gathering new information on its usage.

Of course I agree that a vet is the best when it comes to your chams health, but this product seems to have great potential as an aid in treating many problems associated with chameleons.

 

[Fearaffect]

The site recomends injecting feeders but same result. dont see why not.

I dont put much stock in such products, nor in the veracity of claims made by the manufacturers anyway, I wouldnt ever use it myself.

was dissappointed to see this written on the site in bold red



http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/reptaid4.htm

If your animal is currently ill, dont rely on such crap, get it to a vet!

I usually dont either, but I got a bottle of it as credit for an xtra shipping charge....I've used it and it really seems to bring a depressed Cham. outa the blues.....only thing is u have to use it for the recommended time period, which I didnt and now hes depressed again, so redoing the treatment and sticking to the regimen this time........I only gave him 2 treatments and I needed to give him 2 a day for 7 days.

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

The site recomends injecting feeders but same result. dont see why not.

I dont put much stock in such products, nor in the veracity of claims made by the manufacturers anyway, I wouldnt ever use it myself.

was dissappointed to see this written on the site in bold red



http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/reptaid4.htm

If your animal is currently ill, dont rely on such crap, get it to a vet!

Greetings, JoJackson. What you don't know is that many, if not most, of the keepers who are purchasing the Reptaid have already taken their reptile to a vet. Usually more than once, often to several vets, and usually over a lengthy period of time. They approach us for Reptaid as a last resort. Often after exhausting all other options, and lots of money. And then are pleasantly surprised to find it works so well. Sometimes, by the time they contact us, the reptile is on its last legs. Hence, we recommend getting the product as soon as possible. We added that comment to the sire after several peoples' reptiles died while the Reptaid was on its way to them in the mail.

If you read my posts on this forum, you will see that I often suggest people go to a vet, and I very rarely mention Reptaid. I would like to recommend it to everyone, especially those whose chameleons have problems- because the product really does work. I know it's hard to believe, but it does. What can I say? I mention it very little when I post on the forum because we sell it, and so there would be a conflict of interest. But it is frustrating, because I read an alarming thread and I feel like "I have a product right here that could possibly save this cham's life, but I can't talk about it".

Hope you understand where I'm coming from.

 

[martyllian]

I am using it as an immune system booster, not to treat a sickness. Norman is NOT sick. I am treating it like I do vitamin C for me. Preventative only. Plus, he started a shed last week and it wasnt a very thourough one, so I want to see if this may trigger a good shed

I didnt meant this to become a "take your cham to the vet if hes sick instead of giving him/her reptaid" debate =(

Norman likes grapes. I give him a grape a few times a week. I thought that giving reptaid with his grape would work.

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

I am using it as an immune system booster, not to treat a sickness. Norman is NOT sick. I am treating it like I do vitamin C for me. Preventative only.

I didnt meant this to become a "take your cham to the vet if hes sick instead of giving him/her reptaid" debate =(

Norman likes grapes. I give him a grape a few times a week. I thought that giving reptaid with his grape would work.

Sorry about getting off topic. I have read several times of people giving their chameleons grapes on occasion. Never heard of anyone having a problem with it. Our veiled Guido liked grapes when he was very young, but refused them as he got older. I think the taste of a grape would mask the reptaid flavor very well. We also use it for prevention.

 

[jojackson]

I didnt meant this to become a "take your cham to the vet if hes sick instead of giving him/her reptaid" debate =(

Neither did I!

Gesang, what I meant was the people visiting the site with a very sick chameleon, may decide the product is a 'cure-all' , cheaper than a vet, order the product but the cham dies soon after, then they blame the product.
We know there are too many people who own/buy chams (and other herps) yet are not prepared to pay for a vet.
Your rush mail order notice, without a disclaimer (beneath it) recommending a qualified vet diagnose their animal, will encourage false confidence in a product that is not designed to replace qualified veternary care.

Sometimes, by the time they contact us, the reptile is on its last legs. Hence, we recommend getting the product as soon as possible. We added that comment to the sire after several peoples' reptiles died while the Reptaid was on its way to them in the mail.

My point exactly, not all of them, (and I suspect a very small percentage) have already been to a vet. If their animal is on its 'last legs', is it not responsible to recommend Immediate vet consultation before ordering a product in the mail?

There is something about it not being a cure written on the page, but not beneath your huge red sign, nor as visible. If vets are recommending the product to convalescing reptiles, then by all means say so, but I think it should be made clear (in the same bold red) that the 'blurb' and claims made by the products manufacturer about it, do not replace vet care or qualified vet diagnosis First.

 

[Dunnigan]

I am using it as an immune system booster, not to treat a sickness. Norman is NOT sick. I am treating it like I do vitamin C for me. Preventative only. Plus, he started a shed last week and it wasnt a very thourough one, so I want to see if this may trigger a good shed

I use reptaid for that reason. Once every 2 or 3 months or so i run each of my Veileds on a treatment, I have been contemplating watering it down and giving it to the pygmies, but idk about all that...

Oh and as far as the whole shed thing, i have noticed that my Veileds sheds do take a shorter time not that i have been using this product.

P.S. and Gesang, I dont see a problem with telling people the facts about your product and allowing them to make a decision on those facts. Like tell them about the ingredients and what they can do for the animal, then the owner can make a decision based on the given facts. I do not see how that would cause any conflict of interest

 

[nscar00]

The only problem I would foresee is that grapes are very high in sugars, and hence not a good thing to feed to your chameleon more than as an infrequent treat.

I've had good results from Reptaid for getting rid of pinworms in an adult male panther. I also credit it for a good full overdue shed on an animal that had had a skin leision issue. https://www.chameleonforums.com/any-feedback-reptaid-20334/

People always say that, but what is considered an infrequent treat? Like how often? Once a week? Once a month? Not just about chams, but most every reptile, I mean.

 

[sandrachameleon]

People always say that, but what is considered an infrequent treat? Like how often? Once a week? Once a month? Not just about chams, but most every reptile, I mean.

An infrequent treat to me is no more than once a month. What other people mean by this will vary.

The breeder of my birds cautioned me against offering more than tiny bits of grape infrequently. My friend on a diet was told by her nutrionist not to eat grapes due to the sugar content. My rodent breeder told me to avoid offering grapes and other high sugar foods. It does seem a common thing to say. I dont know if it is myth or fact.

I doubt anyone has done a scientific study on the effects of high-sugar fruits in the diet of chameleons.

But grapes are known for being high in natural sugars, and one might believe a diet high in sugar is not ideal. Again, no evidence. I personally feel variety and moderation are good practises, regardless. So for me, most everything is moderation.

 

[martyllian]

infrequent for me is maybe once, or twice, a week. He also likes orange slices. (real ones, not the candies!)

I wanted to mask the reptaid flavor as much as possible. I didnt want him to start going YUCK! at roaches. (And reptaid really does taste kinda nasty. I got a drop on my finger and tasted it.)

 

[sandrachameleon]

I wanted to mask the reptaid flavor as much as possible. I didnt want him to start going YUCK! at roaches. (And reptaid really does taste kinda nasty. I got a drop on my finger and tasted it.)

My chameleons didnt seem to mind the taste difference. No hesitation in accepting roaches during or after use of reptaid. what they find yummy may differ from what you find yummy