Question about Breeding

[blackbetty]

I was wondering if you could breed one species of Panther with another, kinda like dogs? I am not looking to breed as Im not responsible enough for that (or rich enough).. But take Leo for example. He is a Rare Maroantsetra. Could I breed him with a Nosybe or another panther species? Again, this is just for informational purposes and Im curious.

 

[BigR]

You could breed the Maroantsetra to a Nosy Be, or Ambilobe, or Anakaramy, whatever you want. They are all the same species (furcifer pardalis), just different locales. The offspring would have a mixture of features from both locales. It is like dogs in that they are all the same species, they just look different.

 

[blackbetty]

You could breed the Maroantsetra to a Nosy Be, or Ambilobe, or Anakaramy, whatever you want. They are all the same species (furcifer pardalis), just different locales. The offspring would have a mixture of features from both locales. It is like dogs in that they are all the same species, they just look different.

Ah,thats what I was wondering. I know he is rare, so I was just curious why Chris didnt breed him to something else... and Like I said, Im not a breeder or could ever be.. i see what you guys go through and I praise each of ya.. Thank you BigR.

 

[ChromaChameleons]

I think many hobbyists refrain from breeding crosses for both ethical reasons and practical reasons. Unlike dogs , there is no pedigree registration available to insure pure bloodlines. Also the issue of , who will buy the chams , arises. You probably will have no problem selling the males as pets , but you may have a problem selling the females. The industry is already filled with misrepresented Panthers , as some unscrupulous breeders misrepresent their offspring , just to sell them.

Here in Canada , there has been such a wide practice of mutts for sale , for so many years , purported to be pure , that I can't reliably acquire new bloodlines to add into my projects , without having to investigate the source. I am even aware of misrepresented mutts being sold into the Canadian market , from foreign sources also.

 

[Chameleon Company]

He is a Rare Maroantsetra

Some clarification. If by "rare" you mean than they are currently difficult to acquire within the available stateside trade, you would be correct. That would be to say that they are "rare" just as the Tamatave and Nosy Boraha (Isle St. Marie) are also rare. However, not many years ago, these were the most commonly imported of locales, back when a very small handful of folks controlled the export quotas, and shipped out those locales which were easiest for them to acquire. There was little opportunity for competition. You took what they sent, or they sent it to someone else. Relatively speaking, it could be said that these locales were a "dime a dozen", selling for aproximately half of what other locales could bring. Once quotas were split into smaller segments in Madagascar, and more widely distributed, competition and the free market drove exporters to export locales that were in higher demand, and consequently more profitable, maximizing their income on a finite quota allotment, as now the buyers could take their demand and shop it around. While the above three locales could be brought in in some quantity again, demand would be very quickly filled, as it was before, and their relative price would once again tank.

It is a bit of an odd situation, as a more competitive export market has made what used to be easy to get, and cheap, now not so easy to get. While this might seem as an incentive to bring them in again, there is still a disincentive to attempt to breed them longer term, as that requires a sustained demand, and with history as a teacher, the judgement is that some locales do not hold demand as long as others.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Definatley possible. Whether or not it "should" be done has been debated. There are also many people who do not care if they have a "pure" bred animal. I put the pure in quote because there's really no such thing, IMHO. In any case, Lots of mutts, male and female, find homes with people who simply want a chameleon and are not concerned with breeding, maintaining certain colour patterns, etc. To clarify for those about to jump down my throat, I am not advocating for people to breed hybrids.

 

[blackbetty]

Thank you guys so much. I was looking at some websites from breeders and they have like 25% this, ect so I was wondering..
And as far as the "rare" goes, thats just what Chris posted. I have no researched the species to find out anything different.. In fact, I had to copy and paste so I didnt misspell it