Quads

[bradley]

As i ost my female veiled a few weeks ago ive been thinking of what cham to get next. I have alot of experience in reptiles and have b red veleds and other lizards. I really like quads. The only thing is the finding of the over here in englan. How does thir care differ from veileds like temp and humidity wise. If possible could someone fill in the how to ask for help thing as a guide and a few pics might help.

Thanks
Brad

 

[CleaTheChameleon]

Try to ask Laurie or Luevelvet . I am sure Laurie cna help you out and im pretty sure Luevelvet can

 

[Jeweledchameleons]

There's a big difference between Veilds and Quads.
If you had said that you could keep a panther alive and happy
Then the switch wouldn't be as great.

I'm still trying to work with them myself.
The show animals i got were very sick to begin with.

 

[kinyonga]

Here's a site about quads...the people who started this site have kept quads for many years and there is some contact information on the site...
http://www.quadricornia.com/

 

[warpdrive]

Hi,

Quads as stated are quite different in care requirements.
They like cool temps and high humidity.

Think 21C and 60-70% humidity when the cage is dry.
Temps at or above 24C can kill and require almost 100% humidity in order to get them past whatever heatwave you are going through.

They require a lot of misting and drippers to get there fill of water, especially if the humidity is low.
Gutloading your feeders properly is key as they don't do too well with supplements.

I have two adults now and a baby.
Sadly I fear I'm going to lose my gravid female as she just won't dig and is well past due.
Yet the male is awesome and baby tarzan that I just got from Laurie is doing well.

They are hard to find by you I'm sure but with a few tweeks on your part they are easy if you give them what they need.

Harry

 

[bighutch917]

I lost two males within the past month. Temps here in Texas are extremely hot and dry and I think that added to their demise. Oddly, both were fine one day and gone the next. One was a juvenile that I purchased from LLL Reptile at the NARC show. I didn't realize how thin he was until I got him home. I honestly didn't think he would survive more than a week. I began administering liquid vitamins twice a day and within a week his appetite and activity levels both increased. He doubled in size over the next month. Both deaths took me by surprise . I have since decided to keep my focus on Panthers.

My advice is to read as much as you can with regards to husbandry and care and hopefully you will have better results than I.

Good luck.

 

[DGray]

quadriphenia

I've kept this species twice, and seen lots of imports when working in pet stores.
I like them a lot, even though they're not really friendly. They can be tamed to hand feed easily. Maybe CB babies are more sociable, IDK yet
I do think you can easily manage them if you set up a proper montane environment. This should be much easier in London than in say, Texas.
I do feel its important to keep a humidifier going, as they really enjoy the fog. Also, it seems essential to have many areas of very dense foliage for their security. Many times when people look into the cages, they can't find the chams even after I tell them where they hide.
The European sites for chameleons have some beautiful examples of cages for montane species.

Here's my go at the HTAFH form:
Chameleon Info: Your Chameleon(s) 4 WC T. quadricornis quadricornis - had this batch since Dec. 2009
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? Never.
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? Roaches, crickets, silkworms, wild caterpillars and moths.
What amount? Lots. Six or eight crickets each per day right now. Same number medium-sized B. dubias. Silks 'til they're bored of them. I've fed them flies too (lab-raised only).
What is the schedule? Daily. I skip a day once in a while.
How are you gut-loading your feeders? Crickets get Cricket Crack - montane formula; dubias get bananas dusted with same.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products, dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? I use Sticky Tongue; I dust a few bugs once a week. Vitamins once a month.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? Misting and a dripper How often and how long to you mist? More than once; sometimes 6-7 times.
Do you see your chameleon drinking? Yup. They do drink off leaves when I mist; I mist once to many times a day depending on temps. and a dripper is going most of the day too. A humidifier pipes fog into the cages.
Fecal Description - They usually drop a dry brown pellet-like bolus with a bit of white urate at the end or slightly separated.
Never have run a fecal sample to the vet, but I assume they have a considerable parasite load.
History - I currently have 1:3 wild caught adults and 30 eggs. One female has some edema behind her head after laying.
Cage Type - Screen (Reptariums) with shower curtain on sides and back. Very heavily "planted" with fake plants and vines.
Lighting - there are two 5.0 Reptisun T8s and two full spectrum T12 Vita-lights. They also go outside for a few hours when weather permits.
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? No basking light. It is a little warmer at the top under the flourescents. I always keep the temps under 80 deg. F. (27 C.)
Lowest overnight temp? 50 deg. F. (10 C) Night temps are usually in the 50s
How do you measure these temps? electronic gauge
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? Relative humidity varies from 40 - 90 %, measured with an electronic gauge with two sensors. I feel ultraonic humidifiers are essential to keep RH up.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? Dwarf Scheffs. However, mostly fake ones are used to provide dense cover.
Placement - Where is your cage located? In a low-traffic public area next to windows.
Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? Yes.
At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? Its about 6'2" (1.9 m. )
Location - San Francisco
Current Problem - none

I'll edit later with more. I'm using my stupid Iphone for this.
Edited: with several additions and punctuations