Treetop Chameleons
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how do you get into breeding, and how do you sell the babies when they hatch? and for anyone that dose breed how did you get started?
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Brad Ramsey
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Here's an old thread of mine on the topic.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/
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https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/
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Treetop Chameleons
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nicely said, but how do you sell the babies when they hatch will pet stores buy them?
lele
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Brad Ramsey
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Would you want to sell to a pet store???!!!
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Chill
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I work at a local pet store and you have to do is call the place up ask if they handle reptiles and if they do ask them if they are interested. If they are they usually will have you come in so they can see what your selling. and then if they want it congrats your sold. And if they like your business and people like them then they might come back to you for other things. Im hoping to breed my chams and supply my store.
hope I helped,
-Chill
hope I helped,
-Chill
lele
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Hey Chris - we are actually on at the same time! Check out the thread I linked to above, I think you may have missed out on that one. I know your place is family owned and does not fall into the chain pet store realm, but this guy sounds like he is just looking to make some fast bucks, which we all know is not what keeping - or breeding - chams is all about. Personally, I don't think anyone should leave a store, a show or a breeder without a full setup and complete knowledge of what they are getting into re: expense, care AND having a local vet that knows chameleons. Can you name 3 in our area 
lele
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Brad Ramsey
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My fear would be who the pet store sells to and what kind of instruction and advice is given.
I would not be interested in rearing chameleons that end up going to homes where they are improperly cared for.
I understand one has a limited amount of control in any scenario that involves selling animals, but I think I would like to be the one providing a caresheet, resources and follow-up help.
-Brad
I would not be interested in rearing chameleons that end up going to homes where they are improperly cared for.
I understand one has a limited amount of control in any scenario that involves selling animals, but I think I would like to be the one providing a caresheet, resources and follow-up help.
-Brad
lele
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Brad,
A few years back there was a discussion for the need (we were tossing around a job/consultant possibility although we knew we were dreaming) of someone to go around to stores like Petco to have training days like they do at Home Depot, etc. Like "Learn to Grout Your Bathroom" Saturdays this would be Learn to Care for Chameleons. Someone would be contracted/Licensed (we were working on the details) to go into the store and go over all the details of care, cost, vet, medical emergencies, vitamins, gutloading, all the big and little things. The things that so many of us learn along the way. Our "perfect world" would include this mandatory "class" for any new cham all the necessary setup for their new charge. Kind of like adopting a cat or dog from a shelter - having to get it fixed, shots, picking it up form a vet, etc.
Well, like I said, it was/is a great idea but I doubt anything we will see, here in the states at least, in our lifetime. Pet stores will continue (for the most part) to be irresponsible moneymakers and the best we can do is educate here when we can and report and injustice to our scaly friends and not just bitch about it on boards but actually do something about it. It's the least they deserve.
A few years back there was a discussion for the need (we were tossing around a job/consultant possibility although we knew we were dreaming) of someone to go around to stores like Petco to have training days like they do at Home Depot, etc. Like "Learn to Grout Your Bathroom" Saturdays this would be Learn to Care for Chameleons. Someone would be contracted/Licensed (we were working on the details) to go into the store and go over all the details of care, cost, vet, medical emergencies, vitamins, gutloading, all the big and little things. The things that so many of us learn along the way. Our "perfect world" would include this mandatory "class" for any new cham all the necessary setup for their new charge. Kind of like adopting a cat or dog from a shelter - having to get it fixed, shots, picking it up form a vet, etc.
Well, like I said, it was/is a great idea but I doubt anything we will see, here in the states at least, in our lifetime. Pet stores will continue (for the most part) to be irresponsible moneymakers and the best we can do is educate here when we can and report and injustice to our scaly friends and not just bitch about it on boards but actually do something about it. It's the least they deserve.
Treetop Chameleons
Established Member
thanks for the words.and i realy would not like to see my chams that i have takin care of since they where laid end up in a bad home. i would rather sell them to someone that knows what they are doing possably on line but how do you ship live chams safely?
Jeweledchameleons
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Personally speaking:
It's not as easy as many people seem to think it is.
Most people only see the "front end" of any breeder in a show.
Not how things are done or what's really required to do any of it.
Sadly I've met too many that don't have the simple background
experience to pull it off in the reptile business.
I spoke to one kid that wanted to pay for his college education
with the two baby pathers he just bought - thinking that was all he needed!
Most seem to be just getting buy -some living out in the desert in near poverty.
I've met several thus far, talking about grand plans for breeding their
2 month old newly bought chams. So far I have yet to see anyone new
that's able to do it. Most people that have tried breeding... don't.
It would really help if any entry had some serious professional business experience
BEFORE buying any animal at a show.
After all, it is a business once you start selling any offspring -with all that implies.
It's what you don't know, you don't know - that is going to kill you.
Otherwise noobs just seem to pollute the market and make a mess of it for everyone else
(like Mr. Eyebalz and his MBD Rainbow Panthers)
It's not as easy as many people seem to think it is.
Most people only see the "front end" of any breeder in a show.
Not how things are done or what's really required to do any of it.
Sadly I've met too many that don't have the simple background
experience to pull it off in the reptile business.
I spoke to one kid that wanted to pay for his college education
with the two baby pathers he just bought - thinking that was all he needed!
Most seem to be just getting buy -some living out in the desert in near poverty.
I've met several thus far, talking about grand plans for breeding their
2 month old newly bought chams. So far I have yet to see anyone new
that's able to do it. Most people that have tried breeding... don't.
It would really help if any entry had some serious professional business experience
BEFORE buying any animal at a show.
After all, it is a business once you start selling any offspring -with all that implies.
It's what you don't know, you don't know - that is going to kill you.
Otherwise noobs just seem to pollute the market and make a mess of it for everyone else
(like Mr. Eyebalz and his MBD Rainbow Panthers)
