poorly panther new - read me first - eggbound

[leigh01]

There is allot to read on the other post so i thought id save you reading it all and sumerise to explain.

Basically it seems if a gravid female suddenly has sunken eyes and looks sick she is most likley eggbound. More obvious with common sense and knowing your girl is gravid... I admit I feel guilty and daft for not realising sooner so please dont tell me off!.

I follwed the advice on sand boxes, buckets etc but I'm guessing when i get to the vet in the morning it will be an oversized or broken egg based on what I read in here today.

My girl is off to the vets first thing..... i have read so much on here today trying to find out what the problem was and finally found a thread that answered all my questions. She became ill yesterday, Saturday and has deteriorated quickly today... I'm hoping all the tips I just got, about liquid calcium, showers, most importantly getting to the vets quickly, and although this is very serious there is hope will mean Barbra Logan Price makes it.

It took me a long time to get there and thank you to everyone who posted replies to my, and the other threads.

I feel a bit like Sherlock Holmes but not as bright to be honest. I should have worked it out for myself. I just didnt know sunken eyes could mean severe distress as well as dehydration and with it being my first time breeding panthers I hadnt put two and two together and got distracted by the sunken eyes.

No matter how many books you read, and I've read a few, there are some things you only learn through experience and in place like this. Common sense helps too!

 

[Crazy Pet Lady]

Don't feel bad about asking for help. From what I've seen, everyone here is willing and able to help if they can. Good luck tomorrow, keeping my fingers crossed for your little girl...Peace

 

[Silverdusk]

I wish your girl the best of luck. This was discussed sometime back, but you could possibly use some type of "ambesol" on her vent, she may be able to lay with a little less pain.

 

[leigh01]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my posts and to previous posts on similar cases. Unfortunatley Barbra Logan Price had to be put to sleep. I'm devastated.

It seems that after losing Lola after she laid her eggs (due to a calcium deficiency resulting in kidney and bone issues) my efforts to ensure that didnt happen to BLP actually either stressed her out (giving her calcium suppliments into her mouth directly) or caused something to go wrong internally resulting in her becomming eggbound (from her struggling a little because she really didnt want the calcium). I will never know exactly what went wrong but these are most likley.

I always thought I was doing things correctly, I read books, read lots of posts in forums like this and have gotten advice from vets in the past but it seems i got it wrong.

By trying to stop one problem repeating itself i caused another. I'm at a bit of a loss.... they had a full check up not so long ago at the vets and got a clean bill of health and my vet gets you to fill in a form all about their home, their diet etc and he said this was all good! Although it wasnt until this issue arose i was told daily zo-cal suppliments are important, I used to do it weekly. (I took them into the vet before mating to be sure they where healthy a well enough.)

Anyone who reads this who has success in breeding Panthers and has the time, I'd be hugley grateful for any advice you can offer on how you manage your suppliments and diet to manage calcium intake.

I'm so overloaded with information I think I need to go back to the start, forget what I think I know and start over. Its not like this was a problem I wasnt aware of, I just thought I was dealing with it correctly.

 

[leigh01]

On a positive note... I have 32 eggs in an incubater I'm hoping will make it which will mean something good comes out of all this but I need to get my research in to make sure any new panthers I bring into the world are the healthiest little fellas ever! ;0)

 

[Montium]

Sorry to hear about your loss, I hope somebody can get you the info you want.