please help

[mysti]

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled Chameleon, 2-3 months old at best guess, I have had her about 1 months, Female
Handling - never
Feeding -15 Fruit Flys or 7 pin heads. Reptical cricket food
Supplements -Repti Cal calcium dust
Watering - Misting 3 or more times a day. When i first got her yes saw her drink all the time now no.
Fecal Description-black and white
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?- no
History -

Cage Info:
Cage Type -12x12x18 Exo Terra (it is very dry in the winter to keep humidity up even with multiple daily misting screen cage ready for summer)
Lighting -Repti sun 10.0 plus red heat bulb ( it stays very cool in my home )
Temperature - 70 at bottom 83 at top away from heat bulb. nights may drop to 68
Humidity -drops to 30/40 between misting 70/80 after Exo Terra humity/temp didgial
Plants - schefflera plant takes up whole cage

Placement -in the warmest room in the house (70's) no drafts. top of cage 3 feet from floor
Location - Charleston WV

Current Problem - Not as active, staying pale, not opening eyes fully ( I had just read that babys need to have lower temps just now so i took her out so she could cool down if she needed to it was 83 in her tank but she resting at the top not under the heat light but not at the bottom of the tank where it is cooler either. while out of cage she started opening mouth every now and then not very offten maybe 10 times tops. but did sit with her head turned upwards like looking towards the cileing. i moved her from where she was and she has since stoped doing that. I am trying to attach pics.Thank You in Advance for and help or advice

 

[mysti]

the one with the lighter is for size comparison i will try and get better ones if it will help

 

[pepezkakap]

I am sorry that I can't help much. I would wait for other opnions. But is she drinking any water?

 

[mysti]

i did not see her drink any on sunday. she was active and drinking on friday but things just seemed to get bad fast

 

[Ulrich]

Sorry for your little one not being in a good shape.

I think your feeders could be a bit bigger. She is not that tiny to go with fruit flies or pinheads anymore. She looks very skinny on the pictures at least.

Regarding the closed eyes, I would use Reptisun 5.0 instead. 10.0 has double the UVB output, which might be too much for your baby Cham.

 

[Kate]

Not sure about your supplements. I would use plain calcium without d3 daily and calcium with d3 twice a month and a multivit twice a month. I agree your feeders are too small. It's good fun to see them catching fruit flys but they are not all that filling. She needs to eat as much as she wants at her age. A red heat lamp is not necessary, an ordinary house bulb is fine. Temps at basking area should be 80-84 and temps at night can drop as far as low 50s.

 

[carol5208]

I agree with the other member and get a 5.0 instead of a 10.0. It might be bothering her eyes. If she cannot open her eyes she cannot see to eat. I would take an eye dropper and try dripping water on her nose. Let it drip o there for a few minutes to try stimulate her to drink.

 

[mysti]

thank you. I found a 5.0 bulb that we had and switched it over this morning. i tried dripping h2o on here nose a couple times already but as yet no such luck. i am heading to the store now and will pick up some bigger feeders. I also moved her to a completely closed off room (the bath room) where i can control the humidity of the entire room.( I let the shower run on hot tell the h2o went cold. Thank you for the advice on supplements as well i will up the amount that i am giving her. Now here is the other problem when i was cleaning her cage this morning i found some mold under the potted plant that was in there. Could this have any thing to do with how she is behaving? everything has been disinfected and a new plant is being used until i can re-pot that one. Once again thank you so much.

 

[Ulrich]

Mould definitely is a problem in the long run - especially in a glass terrarium. But I would say not the reason for the current problem of your Cham.

 

[mcbdz]

Hello, sorry you baby isn't feeling well. The advice you are getting is great and hope you follow through. She does look tiny and thin. After she starts showing improvement(Not now) You need to get a new UVB 5.o. They start not being as effective after 6months. But is should be fine for a little while. I find when our Zeke isn't drinking as well, using a hand sprayer very slow soft sprays with warm water works better. I just get the $1 ones at Walmart. It may take the first bottle of spraying before drinking so have extra water for refill. Hope she's feeling better soon.

 

[mysti]

Frances is not getting any better in fact i think she is getting worse. where she was not eating that night i went out and bought Flukers Repta-Boost. when i got home i manged to get a very small amount in to her. ( I just don't know how to open here mouth with out hurting ) after that she seemed a little better. same thing next day i could get so in but not a lot however looked a little better afterwards. Today how ever way worse. I have come to the conclusion that it is MBD I though i was giving her enough calcium and there was always a UVB bulb on her but i must have been wrong. Well with this being the case now i really don't know how to get her to open her mouth so i can get some nutrients and a liquid calcium supplement in to her. Today she was barely opening her eyes now not really at all but the thing is she wont stop moving and she is really unbalanced. she even tries to reach up and climb when there is nothing in front of her like she can clime the air. this of course is when she loses her balance and falls forward. I just don't know how she went from happy apparently healthy to this in such a short time. I really cant lose my little girl right now so any advice further you could give me is very appreciated. and to those of you who feel it necessary to criticize with your helping comments go ahead i have no fight left in me i deserve any and all comments you want to make.
THANK YOU