please help me and my vet!!!

[Elizadolots]

I have a hard time imagining a chameleon who would not view "the dashboard" as the perfect place to poop....

The poop probably did mix with the water in the cage so looked wetter than normal.

I think I'd call the vet on the "compress" thing...It's not good to assume that what works for humans will work for chameleons.

Of course, someone with a load of experience might chime in and provide guidance.

 

[PicassoTheVeiled]

about the compress... it was something a different vet from the same place was going to ask his actual vet for me about... she actually was the one who brought it up... then the person never ended up calling back and my vet has been out of the office for a few days. just curious if anyone else had any knowledge of it... guess ill wait till my vet is back in town

 

[PardalisGirl]

Good thread......

Sorry I missed your updated posts. For some reason I'm not getting email notifications regarding new posts on threads I'm subscribed to. My thoughts....

The runny poop can be due to increased water intake and/or the Metronidizole treatment. Antiparasite and antibiotic treatments can kill the good bacteria in the gut and cause runny poop. That can be restored later with a probiotic. I would not worry about it now since the vet found no parasites in the fecal sample. Later on, after the antibiotic treatment is done, you can buy a powdered probiotic treatment and dust his crickets with it a couple times a week.

I would say it would be better to do warm sink showers or mistings in the sink than the compress thing. Misting or showers usually initiates the process chams have to self-clean their eyes by popping them out slightly and rotating them around while the eye is shut. A warm shower will also help moisten and loosen any sinus blockage. I would not suggest the compress because pressure on the eye without a known release point (open sinus) could cause a rupture.

The antibiotic will stop the infection and production of any more mucus in the sinus. I'm really glad to hear that one is being used. Metronidizole has a very weak antibiotic effect but is normally used for protazoan issues (trichamonas type parasites). Not sure why that was being used for an eye issue.

Glad I found your more recent posts and you are doing a great job!

 

[PicassoTheVeiled]

Sorry I missed your updated posts. For some reason I'm not getting email notifications regarding new posts on threads I'm subscribed to. My thoughts....

The runny poop can be due to increased water intake and/or the Metronidizole treatment. Antiparasite and antibiotic treatments can kill the good bacteria in the gut and cause runny poop. That can be restored later with a probiotic. I would not worry about it now since the vet found no parasites in the fecal sample. Later on, after the antibiotic treatment is done, you can buy a powdered probiotic treatment and dust his crickets with it a couple times a week.

I would say it would be better to do warm sink showers or mistings in the sink than the compress thing. Misting or showers usually initiates the process chams have to self-clean their eyes by popping them out slightly and rotating them around while the eye is shut. A warm shower will also help moisten and loosen any sinus blockage. I would not suggest the compress because pressure on the eye without a known release point (open sinus) could cause a rupture.

The antibiotic will stop the infection and production of any more mucus in the sinus. I'm really glad to hear that one is being used. Metronidizole has a very weak antibiotic effect but is normally used for protazoan issues (trichamonas type parasites). Not sure why that was being used for an eye issue.

Glad I found your more recent posts and you are doing a great job!

thanks. i think the vet first tried a less invasive approach hoping to gently knock out this problem, but he is now on fortaz injections 3x a week for 2 weeks... if this doesnt work, he is going to a reptile optomologist in UC Davis, ca for further treatment, if fortaz does not work, i am going to ask about baytril, though i heard it is very agressive... it seems like jsut about the only thing we havent tried yet.

im also currently trying a natural fix. figure it could only help him. his previous owner had 2x 48" reptisun 10.0's and 1x 18" reptisun 10.0.... i have removed the 2x 48" strips and changed the 18" to a reptiglo 5.0 (couldnt find a reptisun, but they are similar). im trying this because i read about photo-kerato-conjunctivitis which is an over exposure to UVB, which wouldnt surprise me with how much he had in there... its the same thing as getting a sun burn on your eyes.

i know there was a ton of numbers and lightbulbs thrown around it that last paragraph, so in short: currently he has an 18" reptiglo 5.0 about 8" away from his basking area.


.... and the saga continues *sigh*

 

[Elizadolots]

You're doing so much for him! I'm so glad that he found you.

 

[PicassoTheVeiled]

thanks eliza

hes turning out to be a very expensive critter thats for sure haha... but i really think he will make it because if ive had him this long now and we still havent been able to track down the cause of the eye problems... to me, it shows hes got quite a bit of fight in him... hes a tough little guy

 

[Elizadolots]

We love them so we're willing to pay. That's the way it is. I feel good about him. I think he knows he's found a good place and situation.

 

[PicassoTheVeiled]

We love them so we're willing to pay. That's the way it is. I feel good about him. I think he knows he's found a good place and situation.

yea... even though he hates me for it lol

 

[PicassoTheVeiled]

well, just an update. picasso is being referred to UC Davis in california. his eye is not improving like i would like it to be. its still swollen and filled with fluid. some days it seems to be better, then others it kinda scares me because of how big it is.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

I was searching and found this thread. I know its old but what happened to this cham? Did he make it? And what was used to clear this problem up in the end?

 

[Texas Panther Man]

Nevermind, i just found a thread that says the owner is selling him and he made it. Never fixed the eye though still is huge and puffy for all that are wondering.