Pictures of Walter and Olivia

Breanna

New Member
Well here are some pictures of Walter and Olivia, Walter is 4 months old and Olivia is somewhere around 5 months old the guy I got her from said she came from FL Chams. what do you guys think do they look ok??? they both have good looking pooh and eat about 4-6 roaches a day, is that enough, I am worried they are not eating enough. let me know what you guys think, Ill fill out the form too just to make sure i am doing everything right!! ;) thanks in advance for your help and input this form has been a lifesaver you guys are great! :D

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled, male and female, m 4 months f around 5 months. How long has it been in your care? m 2 months f 1 month
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? not very much only every once in awhile to clean their cage or to let them out for a bit
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? dubia roaches What amount? 4-6 a day What is the schedule? every day How are you gut-loading your feeders? i feed them oranges and carrots
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? i use repticalcium 5 days a week and do repcal w/ d3 2x month and hepavite 2x month alternating
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? I mist 3x daily for 5 min and have a dripper i dont see them drink
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? they are brown with all white uriates and no parasite test
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. i got walter from a person that had an accidental clutch when he was 2 months old and not much info on olivia

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? i have a screen 2x2x4 cage that I raised the bottom on and split in half for them while they are still small so they each have a 1x2x3 section and cannot see each other, when they get bigger i will undo the split and they will each have there own 2x2x4 cage
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? I have 2 18" repti glo 5.0 lights one for each side on a 8am - 9 pm schedule
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? the temps are 82 - 78 and get to 77 at night i use a digital meter the zilla one
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? the humidity ranges from 20% dry and 78% wet with the zilla meter
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? i have a ficus in each of their cages
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? they are in a back room with low traffic the top of the cage is about 6' from the ground
Location - Where are you geographically located? Phoenix, AZ

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about. no problem just checking everything

the first 3 are olivia and the last 2 are walter:)
 

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They both look good......small for their age. I would feed them more and offer several different feeders. They should be eating 15 to 18 feeders each per day depending on what size feeders. Keep in mind their feeders should be no larger than the space between their eyes.

I would also reccommend a good dry gut load along with the fruit and veggies. Steve here on the forums sells one called cricket crack. https://www.chameleonforums.com/dry-gutload-sale-37717/
 
Based on your pics and the help form you look like your doing a good job with them. I would add some variety as far as feeders go. Keep giving them the dubia as they are a good staple. But start gutloading your feeders before feeding them off. Try some crick crack or make your own dry gutload. Forum member Simsswiss sells crick crack and my roaches love it and so do my crix and even grasshoppers will eat it. Try mixing in crix 1-2 days a week. And add some hornworms or silkworms 1 or 2 days. You will be suprised how their appetites will increase with a wider variety of food options. Good luck
 
yea I know they are on the small side I had problems with walter and trying to get him to eat when I first got him, neither one are big fans of crix I will have to try and find some silk worms for them. its difficult right now because there isnt any places that sell them near by and I live in AZ and its super hot right now so shipping is not the best i think it is gonna be 110 today :( but thanks guys just wanted to make sure they were looking good I worry about these guys like they are my kids lol they truly are amazing animals
 
Hornworms are much hardier than silks in my opinion. I dont think you'd have any probs shipping them in. I live in Tx and it gets almost as hot here and i have no probs getting any feeders shipped to me. Silks esp when they are hatching are very delicate. Hornworms are hardier but you will need to feed them off quicker because they grow faster than silks.
 
do you know of a good place that I can get some that are small, I dont know much about hornworms :eek:
 
Ive used both Great Lakes Hornworms and Mulberry Farms. I like Mulberry farms a little better strictly because they use the horn worm food that is darker colored and it keeps the worms a nice dark green which i think my animals prefer. The Great Lakes Horns were just as good of feeders as far as losses go but they are a blue green teal color because of the food that comes with them. Its all up to you as far as which one you prefer. I do know you can ask for the smallest worms they have on hand. They will try and help you out with sizes if possible.
 
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