Hello. I have a male blue barred ambilobe and a female ambilobe panther chameleon. They started to mate today for the first time. I have never bread any type of chameleons before, so I'm looking for help. I have done alot of research prior to this event happening, but you know the internet. Many different answers. I know its early but in the next 2-4 weeks she will be looking for a place to lay eggs. Can anyone give me some advice on how to properly breed them. I would hate to do it the hard way and lose my female to eggbound. If the eggs dont hatch then no big deal would be a better lesson to learn that way. If you can help me out and everything is a success, i would no doubt give you a couple of babies for free. thanks
Panthers started mating today, please help
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KarmaChameleon1337
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You should have a container of sand in her enclosure, you can tell she wants to lay by diggong at it, you then move her to a 12 inch deep bucket of washed, damp play sand, do not disturb her until she is finished. If she sees you while she's digging she can become eggbound, once she's done you'll want to up her calcium and water, do you need tips on incubating?
yes that would help. like i said they just started tonight. so im going to leave them together for 72 hours or until shes gravid and starts hissing at him. im looking for a container tomo, rather be ahead of the. i need to keep her isolated and stress free from everything until she is done. hopefully that goes well. and then yes. incubation would be next to deal with
suzi
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Hi, usually around one month later she will lay the eggs. During that time she needs plenty of calcium and plenty of water. A laying bin the size of a 2 1/2 gallon bucket or 5 gallon bucket of washed play sand that is very moist. You should be able to make a fist of sand and have it hold shape. You can put your fist in the sand to make sure it holds a tunnel without collapsing. Don't let the sand get too dry or too wet. If the bucket has some drain holes it helps. Keep the bin in her cage at all times after a couple of weeks just in case. Don't let her see any male chameleons during this time or she may become stressed. It helps to cover her cage with a sheet or garbage bag to give her privacy ( I like to cut a peep hole so I can see when she is done without her seeing me. Don't remove the bucket until after she has filled the hole up with sand and come back to the top branches, at that time she will need plenty of water and extra food for 5 days. Liquid calcium a few days before and after laying is a good idea(you can get that at a pharmacy) put a drop on a cricket once a day for 3 days before and after laying.You can PM me if you have any questions 
KarmaChameleon1337
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Take her out once they finish, she does have her own enclosure correct? I will post some blogs about incubating panther eggs tomorrow, hopefully I don't miss out on a free baby!
CamiGirl89
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Successful incubation for my eggs has been to put them in a Tupperware container within an incubator (just a regular chicken incubator from a local farm store, etc.). I place HatchRite (local petstores) within the Tupperware, and cover the eggs (laying on their sides, not straight up and down of course) with about 40-50% of them in the HatchRite, and the white tops of them showing. I then set the temp of the incubator between 73-78 degrees F., and lightly mist the lid of the Tupperware, placing it on the Tupperware but NOT snapping the lid on. Keep a thermometer and a humidity gauge within the incubator to monitor the temp/humidity. Eggs should remain white and plump. If they shrivel in, they need more water. If they mold this almost always means that they are infertile. Chameleon Easy-Bake Oven complete
yeah they both have their own domains. 3x3x5. so there is plenty of room. i shall go out and find a container and sand tomo after work. thanks for your help. im only breeding them for the experience. i have no hopes in making money, just to know that i could reproduce this amazing creature. hope you guys keep helping me along the way
CamiGirl89
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They are a blast, this is my current hobby while going through college (everyone needs a way to chill and a hobby to enjoy during school, right? ). Happy to help along the way, I would love to have a panther someday soon, they are amazing animals! My veilds are wonderful, as well!
). Happy to help along the way, I would love to have a panther someday soon, they are amazing animals! My veilds are wonderful, as well!
suzi
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If you do use hatch rite the bag says that you do not need to add water. You DO need to add water! The eggs will get dehydrated if you do not add water. There are different methods of incubation, I have used hatch rite and vermiculite. You can close the lid with out pin holes and burp them regularly and wipe the condensation on the lid occasionally so it doesn't drip water onto the eggs. It is helpful to weigh the container right after preparing it so that you can monitor the weight and know when or if you need to add water. If you do add only a few drops down the side of the container, taking care not to get water on the eggs. I incubate 69 degrees for the first 2 months, then 72 for the next 2 months then 74 for the remaining period. I have also used the closet method. Good luck with your project.
CamiGirl89
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I did forget to mention that, the people at the petstore might tell you the same thing... HatchRite MUST have water added. You could even be 'that guy' and teach the people at the petstore a little something about their product to save future buyers from not watering their babies!
laurie
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Hello there and welcome to the forum. i will be happy to give you all the info you need - and more. But I sure don't need another panther. We are all here to help you and answer questions and we love baby pictures & you will love raising babies.
Ok so tell me every thing, how old are your panthers, how long have you had them and any other good info. I like info, I also love pictures, but this sure isn't the time to get pictures.
Here is a form to help us get to know your chameleons better. It is a lot of info to fill out but it will help us help you more in the long run.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
So any more questions just ask away.
But I sure don't need another panther. We are all here to help you and answer questions and we love baby pictures & you will love raising babies.Ok so tell me every thing, how old are your panthers, how long have you had them and any other good info. I like info, I also love pictures, but this sure isn't the time to get pictures.
Here is a form to help us get to know your chameleons better. It is a lot of info to fill out but it will help us help you more in the long run.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
So any more questions just ask away.
The Male Panther ( DEX ) is a year and a half Female (Lily) is 10 months. i know maybe young but like i said earlier was unexpected they hated eachother for months and then we are here today
Have had him for just about his whole life. Lily have had for 3 months
He is handled daily, loves climbing on people, hangs out on shoulder all day. She doesnt mind being handled but hates faces it seems or eyes im not sure, she will usually puff up if she gets to close to face.
both gets fed 6-7 crickets a day depending if they are shedding or not. We use cricket pellets with calcium powder for gut loading as well as the water quencher that has calcium added. Use exo terra multi vitamin 1/3 to 2/3 exo terra calcium + D3 for dusting
Both have a medium exo terra waterfall that he drinks out of. he hates being misted but i try a couple times a day, the room is about 70% humidity and 90F. i always take him for showers. he loves hanging out
they have never been tested for parasites but his fecies are dark brown, a little wet, but holds together
Screen cage 2'x2'x3' top of cage is about 5 feet off floor. fake plants
lighting are exo terra 100 watt uva/b lights and for night is 50 watt heat bulb. lights on 7am. lights off 9pm. then heat light
Have had him for just about his whole life. Lily have had for 3 months
He is handled daily, loves climbing on people, hangs out on shoulder all day. She doesnt mind being handled but hates faces it seems or eyes im not sure, she will usually puff up if she gets to close to face.
both gets fed 6-7 crickets a day depending if they are shedding or not. We use cricket pellets with calcium powder for gut loading as well as the water quencher that has calcium added. Use exo terra multi vitamin 1/3 to 2/3 exo terra calcium + D3 for dusting
Both have a medium exo terra waterfall that he drinks out of. he hates being misted but i try a couple times a day, the room is about 70% humidity and 90F. i always take him for showers. he loves hanging out
they have never been tested for parasites but his fecies are dark brown, a little wet, but holds together
Screen cage 2'x2'x3' top of cage is about 5 feet off floor. fake plants
lighting are exo terra 100 watt uva/b lights and for night is 50 watt heat bulb. lights on 7am. lights off 9pm. then heat light
coldbloodedAL
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There are a few areas with your husbandry that should be changed/added/removed....
1) I am not familiar with the product you gutload your crickets with, but your crickets should be gut loaded a little better. Check out Sandrachameleons excellent blog on gutloading. There are many homemade gutloads that work well, along with some commercially available ones that are good (Cricket Crack, Repashy Bugburger, Dinofuel. All are available through our sponsors.
2) Dusting/Supplementing: Should be as following, calcium WITHOUT D3 everyday(lightly dust all feeders), Calcium w/ D3 twice a month, and Multivitamin twice a month.
3)The waterfalls should probably go, unless you thoroughly clean them everyday. They are breeding pools for bacteria and chams tend too poo in them often. Best ways to get your cham water are drippers and misting. Temps seem a bit high for a panther should be mid 70s to low 80s( Someone please correct me if im wrong)
4)What color is the urate of your chams feces(The little white part at the end)
5) Im not familiar with the UVB/A you are using, We usually recommend a repti sun or repti glo linear 5.0. Ditch the night light, Chams need complete darkness to sleep at night, and a temp drop as well. If it gets too cold in the room at night (below 60 degrees) a ceramic heat emitter is probably best.
Other than that, Congrats on your soon to be momma. I hope all goes well with the eggs and babies! Any questions about any of this, Just shoot away!
1) I am not familiar with the product you gutload your crickets with, but your crickets should be gut loaded a little better. Check out Sandrachameleons excellent blog on gutloading. There are many homemade gutloads that work well, along with some commercially available ones that are good (Cricket Crack, Repashy Bugburger, Dinofuel. All are available through our sponsors.
2) Dusting/Supplementing: Should be as following, calcium WITHOUT D3 everyday(lightly dust all feeders), Calcium w/ D3 twice a month, and Multivitamin twice a month.
3)The waterfalls should probably go, unless you thoroughly clean them everyday. They are breeding pools for bacteria and chams tend too poo in them often. Best ways to get your cham water are drippers and misting. Temps seem a bit high for a panther should be mid 70s to low 80s( Someone please correct me if im wrong)
4)What color is the urate of your chams feces(The little white part at the end)
5) Im not familiar with the UVB/A you are using, We usually recommend a repti sun or repti glo linear 5.0. Ditch the night light, Chams need complete darkness to sleep at night, and a temp drop as well. If it gets too cold in the room at night (below 60 degrees) a ceramic heat emitter is probably best.
Other than that, Congrats on your soon to be momma. I hope all goes well with the eggs and babies! Any questions about any of this, Just shoot away!
coldbloodedAL
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One last thing, Have you replaced your uvb/a bulb at all? They generally are only good for approx. 6 months maybe a little longer, unless you have a uv meter to check it regularly.
we do replace it about every 6 months yes. as for the waterfalls i am using them because they hate being misted the male acts as if he is having a heart attack or has just been shot literally falls off branches, and as for the dripper they wont drink from. they dont seem to be "pooping" in the waterfall. the male doesnt at all and the female has only a couple times. Ill look into those gut loaded products for sure. thanks. so its not good to lightly dust with what i have been doing? what would to outcome be?
coldbloodedAL
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When you mist, do you use warm water? Cold or even room temp water can freak them out. Which is why i keep a aquarium heater in my misting reservoir. If you are only using calcium w/ d3, daily it will cause health issues. One product i forgot to mention is Repashy calcium Plus. It is a all in one supplement that is used daily, no other supplementing required. And the waterfalls are fine, IF you keep them clean.
