Panther Enclosures

Drone

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Panther Enclosures Cages

Warning. Alot of Pictures. I would love to have other peple reply to this thread with pics of their own enclosures and comments for the people new to the hobby as a good point of reference for them.

WoW. I've accomplished alot and still have more to do. Hopefully this will be an ongoing project. Here I'll outline what I've done, mostly everything I've learned from these forums. A picture is worth 1000 words, so I have alot of pics.

Ok. So you want a chameleon?
Don't know where to start?
Want to see what others have?
This is the thread is designed to answer some of these basic questions with examples.

I keep 1.1 (that's 1 male, 1 female) Furcifer Pardalis (Panther) Chameleons.
Originally I had just the male, Evo, and as he grew in size and outgrew his original enclosure, I setup his cage, and then added a 2nd for his jeina, Mila.

Needs to consider for a proper enclosure:
1) source of UVb light (reptisun 5.0 Linear preferred.)
2) Plants. Lots of them. That's where they live.
3) Basking spot. Mine are set to provide an area where the chams can choose to bask at between 85-90 Farenheint, measured with a temp gun.
4) Water. My chams drink off the leaves, so there has to be a way for them get the needed moisture.
5) Highways and byways - vines and/or sticks for your guys to get around on.
6) waste desposal - My two chams tend to poo in the same spot everytime. I can provide a paper towel for them to poo on and remove the waste daily this way.
7) Drainage - You don't want that water to build up, now do you?

My juvenile seup:
this is my original setup. I had posted it up in this forum before I ever obtained my chameleon so the other more experienced members could critque

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Later I added more sticks to the cage, so he could bask a bit better and move around easier. Notice the foliage also grew in a bit.

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I decided that the single florescent tube wasn't enough. So I replaced the fixture with a dual setup from an agriculture website. I added a "plant spectrum" bulb that had a red tinge. I would have replaced it with a standard florescent bulb had my guy not outgrown this cage anyways. Also, the Draceana wasn't doing so well, so I replaced it with a fake plant. I didn't like using a fake plant and won't do so in the future. It worked becasue it was small enough to fit in the space I had open. Also note, the tupperware container below. I burned some spots in the lid so the water could drain into it from the dripper.
I got the idea from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9oz5kMLYY an instructional video on making drippers.

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So I started with a design. Origianlly I wanted 2 different sized cages to go under a 4' fixture for lighting. the larger cage was to be for my male and the smaller for a future female. it was alot cheaper to buy 2 2' cages, so they each eneded up with the same size apartment.

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I had an old fishtank stand that had been partially refinished by my uncle. He didn't want to deal with the project anymore so I got it back from him. I built a new top for it to allow for greater depth of the Cham cages.

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I used putty to fill in any gaps water could go in. I then sanded, and stained the top. Afterwards I put on several coats of polyurethane. I used an oil based formulas that required substancial wait time in between coats. I then let it air out for a couple weeks before i considered moving it into my bedroom to avoid the fumes.

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I ordered a 24" x 24" x 48" tall enclosure form an online store. Its aluminum with a PVC bottom. Assembly on arrival was required, but very simply done with one phillips screwdriver.

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The cage on the stand. I've added a couple plants here. For this cage I used bouganvilla and a fair sized ficus. Trimming of both was required for the cage. You can also see the lighting very well for the cage. I use a dual fixture. One Reptisun 5.0 for UVb. Also a standard spectrum tube as well for additional light. You can aslo see the 50w spot bulb n the clamp lamp. It is in the corner above some vines and such so that the Cham can move around and decide to bask where he wants. Also, on warm days, he can move down lower in the cage or even inside the ficus to stay cool. Also of note is that the lights are on a timer.

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Added my 2nd Cage

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Notice I used a bath towel in between the two cages to prevent the chameleons from seeing each other.

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This is my current setup. The cage on the left has a large hibiscus, pothos, and a small ficus.
The cage on the right has a large ficus, bouganvilla vine in the back, and a small hibiscus.
You may notice an extra set of clamp lights on the top if you look very carefully. This is for ceramic heat bulbs to provide heat at night if it drops below 60. they are wired to a thermostat. Sometimes my roomates let it get that cold in the house during the few winter months here in Socal. We just rarely use the house heater at all because the weather is almost always nice for humans here in SoCal.

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I've heard of people having problems with hibiscus indoors, but they've worked out great for me. The flowers only last about a day each in full bloom.

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I have my Mistking System now and that will be added shortly. First I'm going to install drains in the floors of the enclosures. Didn't make it to HomeDepot this last weekend to do this yet.
I also have two drawer pulls I want to add as handles for the main doors.
 
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Looks good!
Believe it or not, my panthers prefer open spaces to planted spaces....https://www.chameleonforums.com/members/sandrachameleon-albums-cage.html
There is some open space in both cages. They also spend alot of time on the vines. I wanted them to be able to choose want they want to stay comfortable.

Nice! I would do something like that if I had the room.
I would add more setups if I had the room!

Nice cages did you make them your self?
No, I bought mine and assembled them. Too cheap to make them myself. the black is actually more of a dark bronze frame with flat black screen.
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...een/-/24-x-24-x-48-inch-aluminum-screen-cage/

Are you using a 48 inch repti sun bulb? And where do you buy a hood that long?
I actually bought my fixture in the store in the store but you can order it online.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...3&productId=100043531&N=10000003+90401+502059

The bulb I also bought from LLL http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...por-bulbs/-/zoo-med-48-repti-sun-50-uvb-bulb/

2nd bulb is a regular Phillips florescent bulb from Home Depot. I chose the "truelife" color but it doesn't really matter.
 
Drone what size cage is that in the first picture?

I used the small setup from the Kammers http://chameleonsonly.com/Screen-Enclosures.htm
It's 24"Wide x 12"Deep x 24"Tall but Evo really outgrew it quick. he was getting cramped at 5.5 months old, only a couple months after I got him.


Could you take a picture of the tops of the cages? I want to see the lighting. What do you use for basking lights?

I'm at work atm so I can't take pictures right now.
I used 4 x Black 5.25" Clamp light fixtures
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...tures/-/zoo-med-black-ceramic-mini-clip-lamp/

The bulbs im using are spot lamps but many people use any frosted 60W household incadescent which I do believe would work just as well
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ceramic-bulbs/-/zoo-med-50-watt-basking-bulb/

I also use 2 ceramic bulbs - but I've used one of them maybe 3 days since November, and havent even turned the other on yet. With this cold front maybe they'll turn on tonight so I better hook em back up to the thermostat.
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ramic-bulbs/-/zoo-med-60-watt-ceramic-heater/
 
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Very nice. You explained the whole thing in great detail. Chameleon Caretaker please reread the post. Good job. Your chams will be happy to hang out in those big, well lit cages.

WOW, a whole bunch of posts while I was reading and posting.
 
I used the small setup from the Kammers http://chameleonsonly.com/Screen-Enclosures.htm
It's 24"Wide x 12"Deep x 24"Tall but Evo really outgrew it quick. he was getting cramped at 5.5 months old, only a couple months after I got him.




I'm at work atm so I can't take pictures right now.
I used 4 x Black 5.25" Clamp light fixtures
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...tures/-/zoo-med-black-ceramic-mini-clip-lamp/

The bulbs im using are spot lamps but many people use any frosted 60W household incadescent which I do believe would work just as well
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ceramic-bulbs/-/zoo-med-50-watt-basking-bulb/

I also use 2 ceramic bulbs - but I've used one of them maybe 3 days since November, and havent even turned the other on yet. With this cold front maybe they'll turn on tonight so I better hook em back up to the thermostat.
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ramic-bulbs/-/zoo-med-60-watt-ceramic-heater/

Yeah I was thinking for babies if I decide to go that route
 
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