New Mnt Meru's

OldChamKeeper

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After trying so dang hard to get my little Mnt Meru breeding project going I about gave up, it's been nearly two years afterall. However with Tanzania opening up I started going around to various folks I still know in the business and asked around.

Over this week I began calling Reptile Outpost here in CA. At first they wouldn't break up any pairs (I just needed a few females) but knowing imports like I do I simply gave them my number and asked they let me know when they have a single female. Yes you would be right in thinking I was waiting for a male import to not make it. It is an unfortunate aspect of imported animals. In this case I used that knowledge to wait for a female since at least my goal is to reproduce these for a while which in a small way may make up for some of the losses (karma).

In a few days the group suffered some crashes, I ended up going out and taking my pick from 5 females and brought home two very nice sub adult virgins for my boy. The others were in need of some TLC.

While this may sound like a bad store, I'll say it is not. I was plesantly surprised by the cleanilness, how animals needing different types of enviroments were in their own rooms (High humidity in one, deserts in another, etc etc) and noted that the vast majority of the animals I took a close look at were in very good shape. Clean water bowls, proper lighting, large variety of feeders (meaning their animals get fed well too). I noticed a few female Pfeffer's chams and have to say they looked very nice and plump. Nearly all the chams were of a quality I could take home. The remaining Meru's on the other hand I'd stay away from unless they make a turn around. If any are still alive in the next ten days I'd say they are going to make it and could be a good purchase but for now the ones they have left are on very shaky ground.

Everything was looking great for the record.

Considering my boy had surgrey with Dr Greek and is now 1/3 less horny I hope he'll be interested when the girls are old enough.
 
Yes the store is cool and they have the right environments for every animal. Did you see the first big cage on the left in the cham room? there was like 100 baby veileds in there!
 
Congrats on getting some females and good luck with breeding.

We just got a couple melleri from Reptile Outpost last weekend and have gotten melleri and oustalets from them before as well. I agree they are one of the better stores.
 
I really want a pair of Mt Meru for a breeding project, but have been unable to find any for 6 months... It has been hard not filling the spot in my cham room in the meantime, but I have been strong, lol.

Good luck with your project and if you hear about anyone who will ship a breeding pair, I would be in your debt if you shot me a PM.
 
Check Kingsnake and fauna classifieds. There have been adds for them in the last month. I would imagine most are gone by now though.

I really want a pair of Mt Meru for a breeding project, but have been unable to find any for 6 months... It has been hard not filling the spot in my cham room in the meantime, but I have been strong, lol.

Good luck with your project and if you hear about anyone who will ship a breeding pair, I would be in your debt if you shot me a PM.
 
Yes the store is cool and they have the right environments for every animal. Did you see the first big cage on the left in the cham room? there was like 100 baby veileds in there!

I agree that most of their store is great and seems to be taking care of their animals very well, the chameleon room was a different story. Very dismal lighting, cages with way too many animals per cage and no cage partitioning so huge oustalets and verrucosus are hanging on the screen and peering directly into the eyes of a small flap neck or melleri, to me thats not being properly taken care of for newly imported, already stressed out chameleons. The cages were all dry when I was there as well, when they should have had dripping water going throughout the entire day.
Besides the CHAMELEONS, yes, things looked great and properly taken care of.
 
I agree that most of their store is great and seems to be taking care of their animals very well, the chameleon room was a different story. Very dismal lighting, cages with way too many animals per cage and no cage partitioning so huge oustalets and verrucosus are hanging on the screen and peering directly into the eyes of a small flap neck or melleri, to me thats not being properly taken care of for newly imported, already stressed out chameleons. The cages were all dry when I was there as well, when they should have had dripping water going throughout the entire day.
Besides the CHAMELEONS, yes, things looked great and properly taken care of.

I'd have to disagree.

While yes they had multiple animals in cages perspective has to be maintained. No importer keeps animals one to a cage. I have visited numerous wholesalers over decades. With that to fall back on I can say they are doing much better than most. I did not see any animals intimidating others due in part to more cover provided.

While not ideal, and I stress that, they were being kept better than many an importer/wholesaler/pet store. I was impressed enough to bother posting a positive comment here for others seeking a decent place for an imported Cham. I'd not recommend an import to a beginner but on this website there are numerous experienced Cham keepers who know their limits, can use a place for an imported Cham (bloodlines). As such I'll use them again
 
I know they cant possibly be expected to keep one per cage, I am only saying that the lighting the chameleons were under was dismal at best, and chameleons benefit psychologically as well from being under proper UV lighting and the brightness of it. They are obviously a place that imports tons of chameleons, so I would think this would be of utmost importance to them, for them to try and maintain their health for as long as they can before selling them. Also, like I stated before, I feel like they should have access to a constant supply of water because many of them are severely dehydrated with sunken in eyes, casques and very lethargic, which they didnt. Also, cage partitioning is a very easy thing to take care of and can at least take some unneeded stress off of them from seeing other species big and small inches away...Ok Im done with my rant:)
I have also been to importers before, so I also know firsthand the horrible conditions they can be kept under.
But, as for any place that is importing large numbers of wild caught chameleons, it is to be expected that there are large numbers of them that wont make it from the hell theyve been through, unfortunately.
I was very very impressed with the staff tho, and their eagerness to listen, and how friendly they were.
 
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