Need Help Identifying Chams Leg Issue

JerseyJax44

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Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Jackson's, Male, don't know age. Had for 1 day. Here is the story-- I was buying crickets at a local chain pet store for my tree frogs. I got to talking to the cricket girl about pets and the repti expo came up. I told her I was excited to go because I have been preparing to get a chameleon. She explained that they had a male Jacksons that was living in the back room of the store because he had a swollen elbow and could not be sold. I told her I would take him and give him a home. I was originally looking to get a Veiled, so had done a lot of research on them, and none on Jacksons. BUT I did recall most places saying Jacksons are different and cannot live in the same environment. Needless to say I was convinced to buy a 18x12x12, ecoEarth substrate, to mist 2x a day, and to always feed w D3 dusted crickets. She said I could use a heating pad (which I already had). I had not researched Jacksons, but knew they were different from Veiled, I just went with it. SOOO long story longer... I am changing his enclosure today, removing the substrate and adding more plants, and then readjusting his diet and giving the frogs all the new stuff I bought for the Jacksons... Lucky frogs! Anyway, as soon as I got home I looked up what he needed and will be providing it today. So I will tell you what I was told to do as I assume that's what they have been doing.
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? Only to move him into his home
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? So far just crickets. What amount? Gave him 4, he ate them all, so added 4 more. What is the schedule? I will be feeding 3-4 days a week depending on how he is eating. How are you gut-loading your feeders? veggies, leafy grns
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? So far only used ReptiCal +D3, will be changing schedule to cal every feeding, d3 every 2 weeks, and vita every 2 weeks.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? Misting for now, we will see what I can find at the store today to make some more humidity. How often and how long to you mist? Right now i mist 8-10x a day, just keeping humidity btw 75-85 Do you see your chameleon drinking? Have not seen him drink yet, but he has been hiding most of the time.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. White and light orange, looked a little dry (Ive never seen cham poop before so I could be overreacting), but as far as I know he could be a bit dehydrated or stressed. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? Not that I know of
History - I was told he had been to a vet multiple times re his elbow and that they even did xrays... this is while he was living in a chain pet store, so I don't know how that works. Vet said it was a deformity or old injury. Nothing that effects his climbing, eating, or personality.


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? Right now he is SQUEEZED into a 18x12x12, but will be in his new home tonight. Not sure what I am getting, but it will def be bigger and better.
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? I was told I didn't need a light if I had a heating pad... I KNOW, you're screaming at me right now!-- But currently he has a uvb tube light I borrowed from my fish tank (getting a new one today since it's over a year old) and I will be getting him a 40 basking today also. What is your daily lighting schedule? 12hrs on 12 off
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? 70-75 all around for now. Lowest overnight temp? 65 How do you measure these temps? I have a thermometer in the tank.
Humidity - What are your humidity levels?75-85 How are you creating and maintaining these levels? lotsa misting What do you use to measure humidity? have a gauge
Plants - Are you using live plants? not at the moment, but I am going to go get some today. Ficus or maybe umbrella, I have some orchids I want to add, but it makes me nervous to use them. While I'm here... How do you treat your plants before putting them in?? I read to change the soil and rinse the leaves, is that all you do??
Placement - Where is your cage located? High on a stand for now. No fans or vents, but the heat is on and seems to dry everything out quickly.

Location - Where are you geographically located? NJ USA


Current Problem - What's going on with his elbow? Could it be gout? It's only on the front left, but his back left looks larger than the right. I posted pictures of both sides so you could see the difference. They had said the vet saw him and said it was nothing serious. Since he has a heftier price tag than some other chainstore pets I am convinced they tried to fix him so they could sell. Also I was told he came to the store with the "injury". He had been living in the back of the pet store for at least 4 months. He is eating well for his first day, I have not seen him drinking much, but he has peed and could be drinking when I am not looking, I've been trying to leave him alone. He had just finished his shed, but I don't know how much shedding he did, he has little spots of skin that are peeling off with bright skin underneath.

Sorry it's so long, but I just want to give you all the info!!
Thanks in advance for your help!!

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welcome to the forum!

the plans you have for supplements sounds great for veiled but i know jacksons are a bit different so i'm sure someone will help you out.

i couldn't view the pics? but over supplementation of the d3 can cause issues. stop with the daily d3 right away. better to go without the supplements for a few days until you get the plain calcium than to continue od'ing on the d3.

maybe you can find out what vet he has been to and get his records? that would help you out alot.
 
I got the pictures to post FINALLY! I'm going to pick up some plain calcium and vitamins, but will hold off giving them to him until I hear more.
 
does he dangle his legs at all? His back knee looks very similar to my chameleon who we believe has gout in his back knee joint. I am going to the vet today as a matter of fact. Usually they will dangle their legs because it is very painful.
 
No dangling, but I don't have another cham to compare him to. He is walking climbing and using all four legs in the same manner as far as I can see. Let me know what the vet says. Do you have any pictures?
 
well, I had my cham to the vet. he lanced his knee and there was quite a bit of cheesy looking gunk in there. He sent it off for a culture and sensitivity test to see what antibiotics to try. I guess it is some type of infection. My chameleon only had this in one knee which from what I understand gout usually effects multiple limbs. He thought gout as my chams blood work showed high uric acid levels. I don't have any pics as my cham is sleeping and he has been through so much today already. His knee turned all black and is bruising from the trauma. I definitely would take him and have him evaluated. It is good he can use his limbs and does not appear to be in pain.
 
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