My red bar ambilobe mated today!

[PantherVeileD]

I am excited!!! First step in breeding for me... My 1 year old red ambilobe male mated with the daughter of Ms. Fireball (cains) 5 mins ago. They are not done yet, thought I would leave them alone.

I have a question she is in a medium size reptarium.. Should I move her into a 24x24x48 cage so that way I can put a 5 gallon bucket for her to lay in. The bucket fits in her cage now but it seems crammed up.. The bucket takes at least half of the floor space where a 24x24x48 will take up 1/4 of the space.

Any other breeding tips or small advice will be appreciated.

 

[kinyonga]

Either way should be okay re: moving her or not.

You can leave the female in with the male as long as she is not showing her gravid colors or repelling him by hissing, lunging, etc.

Make sure you feed her a good nutritious diet through the time she's carrying eggs. I would put an opaque container of moist washed playsand in her cage right away so she has a place to dig to show you when she's ready to lay eggs. The container should be big enough that when empty she can fit into it easily with a couple of inches to spare on all sides including above and below. Bigger is better though.

Once she starts digging, don't let her see you watching her while she is digging. She may abandon the hole and if she does it often enough then it can lead to eggbinding. She may dig several test holes but should pick one and dig it until she is happy with it. She should turn around bum down in the hole and lay her eggs, fill in the hole and go back to the branches. Then, you can feed and water her well and dig up the holes and incubate them.

 

[summoner12]

Congrats Long!

 

[Cainschams]

Great news Long!!!!!! I know you have been waiting for a while. That girl should be more than ready. They all turn 1 year right about NOW!

Edit: How about some updated photos

 

[PantherVeileD]

thanks guys..

I am recharging my camera right now. Will update with pics later on, going to go out for a late lunch. The female is still in there with the male right now since yesterday.

I took out the bin I left for her back in april and went through them to check if she laid any infertile eggs but I didnt see any.

Yup shes about 1 yr old and weigh in at 61g.

The other female is only 45g. I still start feeding her more in the next month.

Reason I left her in there is that so they can mate more then once? Until she shows gravid colors then I remove her.. Is this correct?? Or one time mating is good enough??

 

[ocular_factitus]

Congratulations! Did you take pics?!

 

[Cainschams]

You can leave her in untill you notice she is rejecting the male, if your around the whole time to monitor. I would let mine copulate on the weekend or a day I could be home. If things where going well I would leave them together for 3 to 6 hours. The female would still be showing receptive colors and letting the male advance but that is plenty of time for them to have fun. I never waited untill she rejected him because I was showing her to a male once. She stayed receptive colors untill the male started to approach, in a split second she was pissed and jumped off my hand and bit the male in the neck Things can turn the other way very quickly is all I am saying

 

[hailo]

congradulations, you should be very happy

 

[boothy]

congrats dude your one step down and a few more to go , i would personally use the smaller cage because she been in it for the last little bit so shes used to it , and also the smaller the floor space the better so she only sees the bucket of dirt as her ground floor and cant get down beside it , i personally think it helps them rather then them screwing around they get right to business but its up to you , if shes gona lay them she will lay them either way , just better to have less floor space so only thing she sees is her laying bucket

 

[PantherVeileD]

Well I took some pics today but not yesterday while they were mating.

He still bobbing his head but not moving forward and the female is just calm and will walk into the plants and hide. She doesn't show any kind of stress. She did have some minor bruises from mating.

Ok heres another long story, back in april she was showing receptive colors so I placed her in with my male. The male bobbed his head but never made any moves.. So I placed her with another red barred ambilobe male and left her alone with him over night. Next day they kept their distance so I just placed her back into her cage. Then she was showing gravid colors / non receptive colors so I left a laying bin in there for her. I've never seen her dig and nothing had happen... so two months later... yesterday I decided to weigh her and shes at 61g so I placed her in the males cage again. She was hissing at him showing darker color and as he approaches her, she walked away. He chased after her for awhile, this is all in slow motion.... and finally they ended up on the bottom of the cage on top of the pot and did the deed. Thanks for the help and comments and yes I am excited... that is correct 1 step down and a whole lot more to go!!!


Well he are some pictures I took today.

 

[Cainschams]

They look great Long! I am glad YOU decided to get a few females from me Those two will make great looking offspring.

I wouldnt feed the other female more. She may just be a smaller female or might be taking more time to grow. Just keep at the pace you are going with her. Remember excess feeding can also lead to problems.

The female looks really nice. Again great job. You know you are free to ask me questions anytime. Give me a call or PM me.

 

[PantherVeileD]

hey thanks for the comments and support! oh i cut down her diet to a minimum because I didn't want her to lay a lot of infertile eggs. Thats why she is around 45G What I meant to say is to feed her regularly(normal) feeding not power feeding to get her to grow naturally. weird they never laid infertile eggs as I planned they would around 10 months.

I will PM you and give you some updates... The important thing is my female well being!

Thanks again

 

[TreelionsUK]

Great Looking panthers!! its a great feeling to know you are now going fuss over that lady until the eggs are here
in the past i have tried,sand,compost,sand&compost and i now use eco earth(coco substrate) 9 times out of 10 the female favours the darker substrates.
I also find putting a layer of dead leaves over the laying site works a treat at providing cover and stress levels down when she begins to dig those tunnels

Good luck!!!

Luke

 

[PantherVeileD]

thanks tree, yeah I place a fake ficus tree and block my view to the laying bin.

They just mated again! I took her out yesterday morning and today 15 mins ago I placed them together..

Here is a short video because I didn't want to distrub them. Enjoy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k1JRXEthCQ

 

[PantherVeileD]

Some pictures I took today and couple of days ago of my male which I named Chaka. I named the female Zulu.

Update... today she is showing gravid colors so these two won't be seeing each other for awhile.


These were taken few days ago

and today...

Pictures of him when I first got him about a year ago.

His attitude is way better now

I couldn't tell if Chaka was a male or female. Was kind of tough... had to have some help from forum members to help me out on this one!!

 

[Cainschams]

They will make beautiful babies Long! That is a nice red bar!! Gotta love the dude on the motorcycle too