MY NEW 1 YEAR OLD VEILED! plz HELP!!

[tago]

ok so i just got my first chameleon.i got him monday (february 20). hes 1 year old. beautiful cham. i got him from a lady whos had him since he was 3 months. hes 1 year old now.

i have everything set up how it suppost to i did my homework before i got him. you know dripper,100 watts heat lamp,5.0uvb light,save live plants,termometers, temperature is 84f to 88f under heat lamp and about 70 to 75 on the rest of the cage. i got him in a 18x18x36 zoomed cage.o and i spray the cage couple times a day

ok so now my consern is that he hasent been eating or drinkind nothing since monday. i tryed crickets and superworms he shows no interest at all! yesturday i tryed feeding him a cricket and he opened his mouth to try and bite me (cuz hes a scare so hes a lil agressive) so let the cricket go on hes mouth and eat it so i did the same thing with a superworm and he also eat it.i(idk if that was right) but i want him to eat..

another thing since i got him monday all hes been doing is crawling all round hes cage from side to side from top to buttom. but today hes not moving much hes just sitting under hes heat lamp. for the most part..

um if theres is anything i can do to help??
thanks guys...........

 

[Bernie]

That cage sounds a bit small for an adult veiled. He may be stressed with this.

What size cage was he in before? Is it a new cage?

Chams can take a good few days to adjust and settle when moved to new surroundings.

 

[tago]

That cage sounds very small for an adult veiled. He may be stressed with this.

What size cage was he in before?

he was in a same zise cage 18x18x36 cage but it was glass. mine is screen...
the lady who sold him to me saiid that he was having trouble finding hes food so he prob. needed a smaller cage..

 

[K9Luvn]

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

 

[tago]

Can you please fill out this form to gain more information so members can better help you with the problem your having.


Chameleon Info:veiled chameleon 1 year old
. How long has it been in your care? 3 days
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? not at all dont want to stress him.
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? crickets and maz worm
What amount? about 5 crickets and 5 worms on trey
What is the schedule? mid day once a day
How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?reptical calcium and reptical multivitamines
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use?dripping system with reptisafe
How often and how long to you mist? couple times a day
Do you see your chameleon drinking? no
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? first day black with white spot. i havent seen him poop again
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. no

Cage Info:18x18x36
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? screen
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? heatlamp 100 watts 5.0 uvb zoomed light go on at 8am go off at 8pm
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? cage floor 70f basking spot 84 to 88f over night 65 to 70
How do you measure these temps? termometers
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? 45% to 50% How are you creating and maintaining these levels? hand spraying couple times a day
What do you use to measure humidity? a hydrometer
Plants - Are you using live plants? yes
If so, what kind? ficus
Placement - Where is your cage located? in living room Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? no air vents low traffic area.At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located? illinois

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

not eating or drinking

 

[Bernie]

Do you know what the previous owner was feeding him?

Have you tried letting his food free range?

Did he eat from a tray previously?

 

[tago]

Do you know what the previous owner was feeding him?

Have you tried letting his food free range?

Did he eat from a tray previously?

he was been fed crickets and superworms. crickets free rage and superworms on a tray. i try to do it the same as hes previus owner.

 

[Bernie]

I would probably say he is still adjusting to his new surroundings.

If he does another poop then you will know if he has eaten something. They can eat/drink when you aren't looking sometimes. Sneaky guys at times.

I'd say give him another couple of days. A Cham his age can go a week without food without any worry.

Just keep offering food and keep misting him as normal I am sure he will be fine. He looks healthy from the picture anyway

 

[ChameleonFan1989]

100 watts seems a high wattage for a basking bulb, I only use a 60W.

 

[Elizadolots]

I agree with Bernie. It can take them a week or so to adjust to their new environments. Some chameleons will delight you by immediately taking advantage of the dripper and hunting down a few crickets, but others won't. I would keep offering food (if you can take them out at the end of the day, that's ideal) and maybe give him some space. If you're watching carefully to see him eat, he might never eat.

 

[Rolon88]

Well sense the previous owner had him in a glass he mite just be adjusting too the new screen cage ...

 

[HolyToledo]

Well sense the previous owner had him in a glass he mite just be adjusting too the new screen cage ...

I know that mine did not like changing from glass to screen! Freaked them out...
Have heard of people covering some sides of cages to reduce visual stress and am wondering if covering some sides would also cut down on the airflow your guy might not be used to?
Just a thought?

 

[tago]

100 watts seems a high wattage for a basking bulb, I only use a 60W.

yea but i dont keep it right on top of the cage its like 4 or 5 inches away. so the basking spot is only 84 degrees to 88 no more.

 

[tago]

I agree with Bernie. It can take them a week or so to adjust to their new environments. Some chameleons will delight you by immediately taking advantage of the dripper and hunting down a few crickets, but others won't. I would keep offering food (if you can take them out at the end of the day, that's ideal) and maybe give him some space. If you're watching carefully to see him eat, he might never eat.

you mean take the food out at the end of the day?

 

[tago]

I would probably say he is still adjusting to his new surroundings.

If he does another poop then you will know if he has eaten something. They can eat/drink when you aren't looking sometimes. Sneaky guys at times.

I'd say give him another couple of days. A Cham his age can go a week without food without any worry.

Just keep offering food and keep misting him as normal I am sure he will be fine. He looks healthy from the picture anyway

ok thanks. is the basking spot hot enough? 84 to 88 degrees or you think it should be a lil hotter?

 

[tago]

Well sense the previous owner had him in a glass he mite just be adjusting too the new screen cage ...

yea he might. i thought glass was bad for them?. hes 1 year old and hes a big guy and looks heathy other than that hes a little scared and defensive right now.

 

[HolyToledo]

yea he might. i thought glass was bad for them?. hes 1 year old and hes a big guy and looks heathy other than that hes a little scared and defensive right now.

There is a great article about keeping them in the right kind of glass cages that provide airflow/ventilation. So, since mine started in glass and freaked about getting put in screen I went and spent about $600 on another glass set-up for mine. I know of chams kept both in glass and screen and do well.

If I had it to do over again, I would cover three of the sides of the cage and after a few days uncover another side and see how that goes for the stress level.

Big change for your beautiful guy.

 

[HolyToledo]

There is a great article about keeping them in the right kind of glass cages that provide airflow/ventilation. So, since mine started in glass and freaked about getting put in screen I went and spent about $600 on another glass set-up for mine. I know of chams kept both in glass and screen and do well.

If I had it to do over again, I would cover three of the sides of the cage and after a few days uncover another side and see how that goes for the stress level.

Big change for your beautiful guy.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/showthread.php?t=31937&referrerid=16669
This is an amazing article about keeping chams in glass.

 

[djfishygillz]

Veiled cages can be warmer than panthers, correct me if i am wrong, so I think up to 90-92 degrees for a limited amount of time in the basking spot for veileds throughout the day is good, as long as the bulb of course isn't close enough to be burned.

Also it sounds like he is stressed, he looks healthy and it sounds like you are doing a good job.

 

[tago]

I know that mine did not like changing from glass to screen! Freaked them out...
Have heard of people covering some sides of cages to reduce visual stress and am wondering if covering some sides would also cut down on the airflow your guy might not be used to?
Just a thought?

Yea i didnt think on that wht u think i should use to cover it?