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DanSB

DanSB

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Pipin my Senegal just had his first shed and had been basking all day and not drinking much. I figured after all the hard work of getting that old skin off he would be thirsty and hungry so I gave him an extra long mist session and he did drink. Then I when I fed him I misted the crickets and got them all wet to add a little extra hydration.

Is it a good idea to get the crickets good and wet to aid when hydration is required or is there some reason this is bad that I don't understand?
 
Well, a few wet crickets isnt going to hurt any cham.
You wouldnt want to do it all the time, and have it interfere with your dusting schedule, but a few here and there will not be an issue.

Wet crickets, rolled in supplement powder however, is an issue;)
 
I don't dust with every feeding I really don't think it is necessary with really well fed gut loaded crickets. The place I get m crickets from literally has the fattest crickets I've ever seen and I had 20 of them eat half a carrot an apple slice and some green leaf lettuce nearly entirely in a week.

But you're right I probably should have done the calcium instead of the misting...

I vitamin dust weekly, calcium with D3 monthly and calcium twice a week. I use repti cal brand stuff except the D3 is Flukers. Pipin doesn't eat a lot either. He will generally only eat one cricket a day, sometimes 2, rarely 3. I offer them every 20 minute until he stops eating and will generally let 1 or 2 smaller ones free range in his enclosure until lights out. My wife also feeds him wax worms about 1 every other day or so.
 
DanSB said:
I don't dust with every feeding I really don't think it is necessary with really well fed gut loaded crickets. The place I get m crickets from literally has the fattest crickets I've ever seen and I had 20 of them eat half a carrot an apple slice and some green leaf lettuce nearly entirely in a week.

But you're right I probably should have done the calcium instead of the misting...

I vitamin dust weekly, calcium with D3 monthly and calcium twice a week. I use repti cal brand stuff except the D3 is Flukers. Pipin doesn't eat a lot either. He will generally only eat one cricket a day, sometimes 2, rarely 3. I offer them every 20 minute until he stops eating and will generally let 1 or 2 smaller ones free range in his enclosure until lights out. My wife also feeds him wax worms about 1 every other day or so.
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Maybe Karma can correct me if Im wrong, as I have never kept a senegal, but...

I think they are the same as panthers and veileds with supplements.
Supplements should be:
Plain calcium with no D3 or Phos. everyday.
Calcium with D3 twice a month.
Multivitamin twice a month.

So he may be getting much more vitamins than he needs.:eek:

I would stop all multivitamin for about a month.
This will give him time to rebalance.

Also, carrots, apples, and greens, are not that great of a gutload, so I would definitely dust regularly.

Here is sandrachameleons blog on gutloading:https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/575-january-2012-dry-gutload-recipe.html
 
I also use a dry gut load but I guess I was wrong when I thought it was good compared to the one on sandrachameleon's blog the one I use is sad and won't even go into details.

From everything I've read Senegal care is very similar to Veiled except just weight and size proportional.

I will lay off on the vitamin dusting and increase the D3 dusting as you suggest, and I suppose I can increase the regular calcium. I laid off because he never takes a second cricket when the first has calcium dust on it.

Thank you!

It always amazes me how nice and helpful everyone on this forum is, love it!
 
DanSB said:
Thank you!

It always amazes me how nice and helpful everyone on this forum is, love it!
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Thanks! Im glad you feel that way;)

I was super ashamed of my gutloading when I read her blog:eek:

It has really helped me to improve it though.
I would also recommend checking out dino-fuel.
Its pretty awesome stuff, and is a great addition to a gutload.

Ive heard of them not liking the dusting on the feeders.
I believe Repashy Calcium Plus could help with this, as it smells great, and they seem to like the taste.

Rep-Cal products are good products though, and I use them on my jackson. If they dont like the taste, they will get used to it.;)
 
DanSB said:
My wife also feeds him wax worms about 1 every other day or so.
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I'm still a total cham noob, but I learned an interesting tidbit from someone on waxworms today. Waxworms have a lot of phosphorous which can cancel out calcium absorption. and because your not dusting everyday with calcium getting 1-2 waxworms a day can be a problem.
 
To help with hydration.. HORNWORMS!

lol, big fat juicy caterpillars that are great for helping a dehdyrated chammie, or just to help up water intakeafter a shed.
 
Sadly I couldn't just run up the street and get any hornworms.

I'm trying to setup a bug pantry so the bugs will be separate from the living room where they are now causing problems. Plus I just need more insectivorous animals to take help eat up the bugs before they die.

Ideally I will just have breeding colonies of all my feeders but that is in the future...
 
It sounds like I need to get some Calcium Plus. Hopefully Pipin will like it more than the Rep-Cal stuff I'm using.
 
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