Mbd!!!!?????

KatieSimmo

KatieSimmo

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - YEMEN, MALE AGE: 4 MONTHS?
. How long has it been in your care? 2 MONTHS
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? ONCE A DAY
Feeding - What are you feeding your CHAM? CRICKETS-LOCUSTS-WAX WORM TREATS What amount? NORMALLY EATS ABOUT 10 A DAYWhat is the schedule? MORNING ONLY How are you gut-loading your feeders? CARROT
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? REPTIVIT WOTH D3 EVERY 3 DAYS
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? LILL DRIPPER ON ALL DAY 4-5 SPRAYED A DAY Do you see your chameleon drinking? YES
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? NO TESTS - SLIGHTY RUNNY WEE IS WHITE
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. ONE RESPITORY INFECTION BUT AT FULL HEALTH NOW

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? EXO TERRA - JUST UPDATED TO REPIBREEZE 48X48X92
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? EXO TERRRA COMPACT TROPICAL BULB 5.0 - 75W HEAT BULB What is your daily lighting schedule? UVB/UVA LAMP ON THEN HEAT GOES ON FOR UP TO 12 HOURS
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? 27 IN THE MIDDLE Lowest overnight temp? NOT TOO SURE How do you measure these temps? EXO TERRA GAUGE MIDDLE OF CAGE
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? ONLY JUST BOUGHT A HUMIDITY GAUGE How are you creating and maintaining these levels? DRIPPER AND SPRAY What do you use to measure humidity? ONLY JUST BOUGHT A GAUGE
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? NOPE
Placement - Where is your cage located? IN BEDROOM ON A DESK Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? 5FT
Location - Where are you geographically located? SOUTH WALES -UK

Worried about possible mbd- he is kinda dragging his tummy on the floor and front legs are spread and on his elbows sort of- but hes strenght in his grip is amazingly strong - he is also abit wobbly on his legs but we dust d3 every other day also gut load - just invested in a whole new set up and new uva/uvb bulb a liniar tube 5.0 just incase this is the problem


please help ill try get photos
 
KatieSimmo said:
How are you gut-loading your feeders? CARROT
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? REPTIVIT WOTH D3 EVERY 3 DAYS
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? EXO TERRRA COMPACT TROPICAL BULB 5.0 - 75W HEAT BULB What is your daily lighting schedule? UVB/UVA LAMP ON THEN HEAT GOES ON FOR UP TO 12 HOURS
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? NOPE

Worried about possible mbd- he is kinda dragging his tummy on the floor and front legs are spread and on his elbows sort of- but hes strenght in his grip is amazingly strong - he is also abit wobbly on his legs but we dust d3 every other day also gut load - just invested in a whole new set up and new uva/uvb bulb a liniar tube 5.0 just incase this is the problem


please help ill try get photos
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Yes I would definitely switch to the linear 5.0 bulb for UV. Use it for 6 months and exchange it. Your gutload and dusting schedule is off as well. Dust lightly with plain calcium (no D3) each day, dust with calcium (with D3) about once a week, and dust with a herp multivitamin once a month. Gutload with dark leafy greens (not spinach or broccoli), fresh fruit including citrus, add in a fortified whole grain. Other ingredients that benefit include spirulina and bee pollen. I don't know what quality commercial gutloads you have available across the pond.
 
Hi Katie:

Please post of picture of your cham. Rounding of the bones in the front forearms are an obvious sign of MBD.

By the way your supplementing is a little off. You need a calcium witout D3 for daily use. You should use the one with D3 twice a month.
 
yeah i did some research and ive swapped it now waiting on the canopy to arrive on wednesday,
he was strong when i left last week - but ive returned and hes gone downhill i willl dust with the normal dust everyday now,

but my boyfriend loves treating him to wax worms could be possibly be overweight ?

is it possible to over load them with calcium?
 
He looks good. No MBD or obesity, yet. Just adjust the schedule and hook up that new light and he will be good to go.. :D
 
my boyfriends seems to think it might be because his skin is tight hes shedding right now as you can see but he is like walking on his elbows in abit freaked out about it! he was absoultly fine a week ago ! ill keep postign photos and will dust everyday - no more fatty wax worms for a week will see what hes like- also his new viv sould be ready to rock mid week :D ill keep you posted thanks guys
 
So hes now having everything dusted in normal calcium dust. Not eaten today . Weve updated his viv now will post pics soon. But if he does move his legs shake intensely . And he carnt support himself on front legs . I defiantly think hes getting weeker . He was amazingly active running around his viv but not anymore. His wee today was also brownish
 
weak and wobbly means that he can't get to his water as easily as before. that is probably the reason his urates are darkening. move his dripper so it drips right next to where he is perching and drip water down his nose until he drinks as many times a day as you can. hydration is most important for sick ones.

hopefully increasing his calcium now will take care of it but the vet could do x-rays to check bone density and if not good can give shots that get them better much faster.

too much d3 can be just as bad for them as too little. d3 two times a month should be enough for now unless the vet tells you differently.

keeping my fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.
 
Thank you. We have moved his dripper to his new favorite area. And weve increased his calcium. Fingers crossed its his lack of water . Otherwise vets if we dont see no improvement . Thanks.for all your helping comments
 
For gutloading check out Sandrachameleons blogs. I haven't been able to find any commercial ones that I would use so I made my own. However I have just found bug burger and am waiting for it to come, it was expensive.:D
 
Hey guys just a quick update . Rio is much better after the post about his water we moved the dripper and the shaking was gone in two days. He is loving his new enclosure and is super active thanks for all your help guys :)
 
Excessive D3 can poison chameleons, so it's possible that he is getting over the excessive vitamin D3 in his system. Here is a blog that goes into what each vitamin and mineral does in the body: http://muchadoaboutchameleons.blogspot.com/2012/03/chameleon-physiology-supplements.html

Too much vitamin D3 will lead to calcification of the soft tissues, like organs and muscles, so it's important not to give too much. Excessive calcium will also cause issues, so don't go over-board on how much you give, just be diligent about dusting all his feeders lightly with it every day while he's young.
 
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