MBD Cham food

[8675309]

So I have a veiled Cham and was wondering if i could feed anything other than Powder food, BSFL, and wax worms because he can’t eat anything that is hard (or has too much caiten or citen idk how to spell it, but it is the stuff that makes the bug hard). I’ve heard that you can feed fruit and veg but there are mixed opinions on it so I haven’t done that yet. He has a pretty bad case of MBD and I just want him to have a more varied diet than just 3 things ya know. Just a disclaimer, we got him from a lady that didn’t do the research on Chams and had the wrong lighting. We did not have him when he first developed MBD but we took him to the vet to confirm that he did have it. He also can’t shoot his tongue all the way, just like an inch or two.

 

[CasqueAbove]

If you get dubia roaches, watch for them to molt, they will be white and soft until they harden up

 

[MissSkittles]

Silkworms are nice and squishy. Wax worms aren’t a great staple feeder as they are so fatty. While some veileds will eat greens, fruits and veggies, they really aren’t able to digest them and I doubt would be able to get any nutrition from them. Save those for gutloading.
Maybe this will help. You could let the waxworms and bsfl pupate and become flies for a nice little flying treat. Might help stimulate him to try shooting his tongue a little farther.

 

[DocZ]

Red runner roaches are pretty squishy as far as roaches go. Might be another good option for variety

 

[MissSkittles]

Is it that she has trouble chewing the feeders?

 

[8675309]

Is it that she has trouble chewing the feeders?

yes he can’t really open his mouth but like a quarter of an inch

 

[Ramrod]

If you get dubia roaches, watch for them to molt, they will be white and soft until they harden up

These are my chams favorite. Lucky I have colonies large enough to be able to pick out a tender Juicy white one whenever I go out to get em.?

 

[MissSkittles]

yes he can’t really open his mouth but like a quarter of an inch

Poor guy. Try some silkworms. You can get smaller ones that he shouldn’t have any problem with.

 

[8675309]

Poor guy. Try some silkworms. You can get smaller ones that he shouldn’t have any problem with.

Ok thank you, I hope he doesn’t get scared of them like he did with the hornworms

 

[MissSkittles]

Ok thank you, I hope he doesn’t get scared of them like he did with the hornworms

Silkies don’t bite like hornworms do. Maybe start with smaller ones so he isn’t so afraid.

 

[8675309]

Silkies don’t bite like hornworms do. Maybe start with smaller ones so he isn’t so afraid.

Okay, do you have any good places to get the silk worms from?

 

[MissSkittles]

Okay, do you have any good places to get the silk worms from?

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[8675309]

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Thank you

 

[kinyonga]

What is being done to correct the MBD? It needs to be corrected and then the husbandry needs to be correct to keep it from returning.

 

[8675309]

What is being done to correct the MBD? It needs to be corrected and then the husbandry needs to be correct to keep it from returning.

He has the correct lighting now and the correct vitamins and supplements that he needs, he doesn’t have the correct cage rn because they are expensive but My dad and I are planning on building one that is huge and well ventilated like the ones in retail. The cage should be 3ft*1.5 ft* 2.5 ft when we build it. The only incorrect things he has rn is the cage and a properly varied diet bc he can’t eat most things. Like I mentioned before, we took him to the vet and got liquid calcium supplements and Vitamin shots as well as some gell for his eye because it wasn’t doing well at the time. We are trying our best to keep it from worsening but he has such a secure case that it will never leave him like a normal healthy Cham.

 

[Spyro]

He has the correct lighting now and the correct vitamins and supplements that he needs, he doesn’t have the correct cage rn because they are expensive but My dad and I are planning on building one that is huge and well ventilated like the ones in retail. The cage should be 3ft*1.5 ft* 2.5 ft when we build it. The only incorrect things he has rn is the cage and a properly varied diet bc he can’t eat most things. Like I mentioned before, we took him to the vet and got liquid calcium supplements and Vitamin shots as well as some gell for his eye because it wasn’t doing well at the time. We are trying our best to keep it from worsening but he has such a secure case that it will never leave him like a normal healthy Cham.

What supplements are you giving him?

 

[8675309]

What supplements are you giving him?

Calcium and multivitamin because he gets D3 from the lighting

 

[Chase]

Calcium and multivitamin because he gets D3 from the lighting

It is still suggested to supplement with a calcium PLUS D3.

You could try house flies or blue bottle flies as well. They’re soft and they usually help with stimulating a feeding response

 

[8675309]

It is still suggested to supplement with a calcium PLUS D3.

You could try house flies or blue bottle flies as well. They’re soft and they usually help with stimulating a feeding response

Yeah it is calcium plus D3 in the container together, but I didn’t think it would be enough to make a huge difference. But yeah a moth flew in there one time and that was the best feeding response I’ve ever gotten from him, where would I be able to get the flys if you know?

 

[MissSkittles]

I think Josh’s Frogs sells blue bottle spikes