Male of Female?, plus, ID??

[bertolocci]

Hi there, i am new at forum.
Could you help me please about what ID my little friend and sould i call it he or she (male or female)

 

[Lancecham]

Males have a tarsal spur. In the first 4 pics you can't tell if there is one or not. But on the last pic, I don't see a tarsal spur, so you have a female.

 

[bertolocci]

thank you

 

[bertolocci]

Males have a tarsal spur. In the first 4 pics you can't tell if there is one or not. But on the last pic, I don't see a tarsal spur, so you have a female.

thank you, so do you have any idea about ID? What kind of Cham?

 

[Chris Anderson]

thank you, so do you have any idea about ID? What kind of Cham?

It is difficult to say with certainty at its age, but it does not appear to me to be a Chamaeleo calyptratus (which is what most would probably tell you it is). I believe it is either a Chamaeleo chamaeleon or a Chamaeleo africanus, but I'm not willing to promise one way or the other without more information and possibly seeing it again when it is older.

Can you give us any more information on it? Where are you located (would you happen to be in the Mediterranean, by chance?)? Did you get it from a breeder or catch it yourself?

Chris

 

[thephotoprincess]

It is difficult to say with certainty at its age, but it does not appear to me to be a Chamaeleo calyptratus (which is what most would probably tell you it is). I believe it is either a Chamaeleo chamaeleon or a Chamaeleo africanus, but I'm not willing to promise one way or the other without more information and possibly seeing it again when it is older.

Can you give us any more information on it? Where are you located (would you happen to be in the Mediterranean, by chance?)? Did you get it from a breeder or catch it yourself?

Chris

I'm glad you posted that. I do not think it is a Chamaeleo calyptratus (veiled) either and wanted to say so but I didn't have reasons other than I've raised many veileds from hatching and this doesn't look quite the same.

 

[trd1215]

Kinda looks like its growing a flap behind the head and it might be a flapneck chameleon you have there.

 

[Chris Anderson]

Kinda looks like its growing a flap behind the head and it might be a flapneck chameleon you have there.

There definitely is an occipital lobe forming. In Chamaeleo dilepis (Flap-necked Chameleon), however, the occipital lobes are primarily present and enlarged at the dorsal half of the rear of the skull (between the apex of the casque to about where the quadrate and squamosal bones meet). This cham seems to have a relatively uniform thickness occipital lobe that extends down much of the length of the quadrate though, so I don't think it is Ch. dilepis.

Chris