Lump on Veiled's eye??

Abbylesperance

New Member
Chameleon Info:
◦Your Chameleon - Veiled, female, 2 years and 8 months old, she has been in my care since she was 3 months old.
◦Handling - Not very often at all. Only when I have to. (but when I do she seems pretty friendly and only a little scared)
◦Feeding - Mainly crickets, mealworms, hornworms, blueberries, and strawberries. Around 6-8 crickets every morning. Sometimes I skip the crickets and feed berries and a hornworm/mealworms. My crickets are on "Flucker's High Calcium Cricket Diet" and "Flucker's Cricket Quencher" for water.
◦Supplements - I dust her crickets with "Zoo Med Repti Calcium Without D3" every other day and "Zoo Med Reptivite with D3 Reptile Vitamin" once a week.
◦Watering - I try to keep her little dripper running for a good portion of the day and she has a mist king set up that mists her cage thoroughly every 2 hours. I never see her drinking which is why I try to give her some hydrating foods like hornworms or berries as often as I can. She always seems dehydrated though. Some days she looks worse than others. Any tips on how to get her to drink would be appreciated.
◦Fecal Description - Her feces seem normal, besides an orange piece in the urate from dehydration. She has not been tested for parasites.
◦History - I took her for a vet check up about 6 months ago and they said she was pretty healthy besides being a little dehydrated. I was supposed to bring in a fecal sample to get tested but I was very busy at the time and could never get one fresh enough, and then I ended up moving an hour away from her vet.

Cage Info:
◦Cage Type - Completely screen with a drainage system in the bottom. Dimensions are 48"H x 24"W x 24"D. I will attach a picture of her enclosure.
◦Lighting - Her UVB bulb is a "Zoo Med Repti Sun 10.0 UVB" and her heat bulb is a 75-watt "Zoo Med Repti Basking Reptile Spot Lamp"
◦Temperature - Her basking spot is around 80 degrees and her cage floor is around 68 degrees. Her lowest temp overnight is probably around 67 degrees. I measure her temps with a temperature gun.
◦Humidity - I always make sure her cage is moist and her cage gets misted every two hours throughout the day. I could probably track her humidity levels better. I had a hygrometer but it was never accurate(always read in the 30's) so I took it out.
◦Plants - I have one Schefflera plant at the bottom of her cage.
◦Placement - It is by a window in the dining area next to the living room. People don't usually go over there but she can probably see us in the living room from where she is.
◦Location - United States, Wisconsin

Current Problem - The main problem I am worried about is her eye. I noticed a small lump on her eye about a week after she laid her last batch of eggs. I thought maybe it would go away if I waited but it seems like it's getting worse. From what I can see it doesn't seem to bother her. I don't see her rubbing it or anything but she is kind of shy so maybe she doesn't do it in front of me. I'm also worried about her not getting enough water. I have her dripper going most of the time but I never see her drinking from it. Also, she hates it when her mister goes off. She runs and hides from the sprayer. I will attach a picture of her eye.
 

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Abbylesperance

New Member
Thank you!
When she would come up from digging I did notice her rubbing her face against a vine. But I figured that she was just trying to clean the dirt off. I did check her urates. They are mostly white but there was a part that was an orange color. What concernes me is the way her skin and eyes look. Her skin looks like it's sagging and dry and her eyes are slightly sunken.
 

alphakenc

Chameleon Enthusiast
Your welcome.My advice will be hydrating more...1) that bit of orange color of urate. 2) when the skin sagging that tells you that she will need more water.I highly recommend set her on a shower and give her more misting with the lukewarm water she definitely is dehydrated Im 100% sure.
If that eye gets worst , I would take her to the chameleon specialist vet asap so the vet can examine her eye closely.
 

CamoChameleonsHuman

Chameleon Enthusiast
Chameleon Info:
◦Your Chameleon - Veiled, female, 2 years and 8 months old, she has been in my care since she was 3 months old.
◦Handling - Not very often at all. Only when I have to. (but when I do she seems pretty friendly and only a little scared)
◦Feeding - Mainly crickets, mealworms, hornworms, blueberries, and strawberries. Around 6-8 crickets every morning. Sometimes I skip the crickets and feed berries and a hornworm/mealworms. My crickets are on "Flucker's High Calcium Cricket Diet" and "Flucker's Cricket Quencher" for water.
◦Supplements - I dust her crickets with "Zoo Med Repti Calcium Without D3" every other day and "Zoo Med Reptivite with D3 Reptile Vitamin" once a week.
◦Watering - I try to keep her little dripper running for a good portion of the day and she has a mist king set up that mists her cage thoroughly every 2 hours. I never see her drinking which is why I try to give her some hydrating foods like hornworms or berries as often as I can. She always seems dehydrated though. Some days she looks worse than others. Any tips on how to get her to drink would be appreciated.
◦Fecal Description - Her feces seem normal, besides an orange piece in the urate from dehydration. She has not been tested for parasites.
◦History - I took her for a vet check up about 6 months ago and they said she was pretty healthy besides being a little dehydrated. I was supposed to bring in a fecal sample to get tested but I was very busy at the time and could never get one fresh enough, and then I ended up moving an hour away from her vet.

Cage Info:
◦Cage Type - Completely screen with a drainage system in the bottom. Dimensions are 48"H x 24"W x 24"D. I will attach a picture of her enclosure.
◦Lighting - Her UVB bulb is a "Zoo Med Repti Sun 10.0 UVB" and her heat bulb is a 75-watt "Zoo Med Repti Basking Reptile Spot Lamp"
◦Temperature - Her basking spot is around 80 degrees and her cage floor is around 68 degrees. Her lowest temp overnight is probably around 67 degrees. I measure her temps with a temperature gun.
◦Humidity - I always make sure her cage is moist and her cage gets misted every two hours throughout the day. I could probably track her humidity levels better. I had a hygrometer but it was never accurate(always read in the 30's) so I took it out.
◦Plants - I have one Schefflera plant at the bottom of her cage.
◦Placement - It is by a window in the dining area next to the living room. People don't usually go over there but she can probably see us in the living room from where she is.
◦Location - United States, Wisconsin

Current Problem - The main problem I am worried about is her eye. I noticed a small lump on her eye about a week after she laid her last batch of eggs. I thought maybe it would go away if I waited but it seems like it's getting worse. From what I can see it doesn't seem to bother her. I don't see her rubbing it or anything but she is kind of shy so maybe she doesn't do it in front of me. I'm also worried about her not getting enough water. I have her dripper going most of the time but I never see her drinking from it. Also, she hates it when her mister goes off. She runs and hides from the sprayer. I will attach a picture of her eye.
OK lots of husbandry issues to correct here. I will say I love your enclosure setup and great job on the mist king.
1) mealworms, and strawberries aren't recommended for feeding our chameleons. Mealworms are high in ciatin which is hard for them to digest. Strawberries are high in sugars.
2) your cricket gutload is severily lacking. You should be feeding them leafy greens, mangos, sweet potatoes, etc. A high quality gutload premix like cricket crack or bug burger is also ok. Fluckers is not what your Cham needs.
3) dusting your feeders should be done everyday with Calcium no D3, calcium with D3 2x a month, and a multivitamin 2x a month.
4) basking spot should be a little warmer at 85 for adult female.

Now to address your issue. She needs to see a vet again. Also look into vitamin A supplement its great for our reptiles eye health.
 

Abbylesperance

New Member
OK lots of husbandry issues to correct here. I will say I love your enclosure setup and great job on the mist king.
1) mealworms, and strawberries aren't recommended for feeding our chameleons. Mealworms are high in ciatin which is hard for them to digest. Strawberries are high in sugars.
2) your cricket gutload is severily lacking. You should be feeding them leafy greens, mangos, sweet potatoes, etc. A high quality gutload premix like cricket crack or bug burger is also ok. Fluckers is not what your Cham needs.
3) dusting your feeders should be done everyday with Calcium no D3, calcium with D3 2x a month, and a multivitamin 2x a month.
4) basking spot should be a little warmer at 85 for adult female.

Now to address your issue. She needs to see a vet again. Also look into vitamin A supplement its great for our reptiles eye health.
 

Abbylesperance

New Member
Thanks so much for your feedback.

I was always kind of confused about supplements. I've been told that it can harm your chameleon to feed too much calcium so thanks for clearing that up. Just a few questions.
1) Are blueberries also bad to feed?
2)Are super worms ok for an occasional treat instead of mealworms?
3)Can I feed her a multivitamin supplement with D3 twice a month or do I need to feed the d3 and multivite on separate occasions?
4) What supplements do you recommend?
5) If I gut load with fruits and veggies do I have to get a premix too?
 

Abbylesperance

New Member
Your welcome.My advice will be hydrating more...1) that bit of orange color of urate. 2) when the skin sagging that tells you that she will need more water.I highly recommend set her on a shower and give her more misting with the lukewarm water she definitely is dehydrated Im 100% sure.
If that eye gets worst , I would take her to the chameleon specialist vet asap so the vet can examine her eye closely.

So do you think the lump on her eye is from dehydration? What do you mean by set her on a shower?
 

CamoChameleonsHuman

Chameleon Enthusiast
Thanks so much for your feedback.

I was always kind of confused about supplements. I've been told that it can harm your chameleon to feed too much calcium so thanks for clearing that up. Just a few questions.
1) Are blueberries also bad to feed?
2)Are super worms ok for an occasional treat instead of mealworms?
3)Can I feed her a multivitamin supplement with D3 twice a month or do I need to feed the d3 and multivite on separate occasions?
4) What supplements do you recommend?
5) If I gut load with fruits and veggies do I have to get a premix too?
All great questions. And thank you for taking the constructive criticism so politely
1) blueberrys are fine in my point of view but mangos are considered better and are enjoyed more by our Chams.
2) Superworms are a great treat for our Chams!
3) separate. I like to do my d3/multivitamin day on Fridays. But yes on seperate days. Alternating if you can remember.
4) repashy, repti-cal, Arcadia, zoo med, or exo terra are fine. As long as it's Calcium with no phosphorus or very low in it.
5} no you do not. Some people just like the convenience of the premix gutloads.

Hope this helps and I hope your Cham feels better soon!
 

alphakenc

Chameleon Enthusiast
So do you think the lump on her eye is from dehydration? What do you mean by set her on a shower?
The lump on her eye probably causing by something else unless her other eye is looking the same as the lumpy eye.
For an older cham ,u can guide the cham onto a firm objects to stand in your bathtub while the shower splashed with fine mist shower water bounce off the wall n onto the cham.
 
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