Lethargic Rudis chameleon

Kat H

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Rudis chameleon ~5-6 months old, had since one month. Not sure of the sex
Handling - not at all
Feeding - I feed him bean bottles, mealworms, crickets about 3-6 bean beatles a day everyday around 1-2pm They are gut loaded by flunkers
Supplements - i dust with calcium without D3 everyday and with D3 about twice a month
Watering - I hand mist everyday about 4-6 times and i watch him drink
Fecal Description - His poop is normal its black with the little white end which tells me he's hydrated He has not been tested for parasites
History - When i received him all eleven of his siblings died and he didn't seem healthy but he has grown significantly since I've had him

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Small 16x16x20 reptibreeze cage
Lighting - I have a 10.0 uvb and a standard 40watt basking bulb on for ten hours a day
Temperature - during the day it gets as hot as 85 and at night it drops to about 65 I measure by the temp gauges i have in the enclosure
Humidity - Not sure about the percentage of the humidity he does have a humidifier hooked up to the enclosure and i spray often
Plants - I am using a live golden pathos plant
Placement - on top of a side table
Location - CT, USA

Current Problem - So lately he's been extremely lethargic and is sleeping during the day. He also is not eating as much as he was he went from 6 bean beattles to one or two. I have made his diet more diverse by slowly adding the crickets and mealworms. He's extremely difficult to feed i use tweezers to feed him because he refuses to cup feed as much as I've tried.
 
Daytime sleeping is a very bad sign and means he is sick.
A trip to a vet who is experienced with chams would be your best chance of saving him.
The sooner he can be seen, the better.

Chams conceal all signs of illness until they are much too sick to be able to hide their symptoms.
Daytime sleeping, loss of appetite and lethargy are all symptoms of illness.

The Fluker's gutload is not what I would use as a steady gutload.
It is nowhere near as good as feeding fresh veggie and fruit scraps to your feeders.
See this thread for details https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-wrong-flukers-gut-load-49785/

You really can't successfully keep a "montane species", such as Rudis, without keeping track of humidity.
These chams come from humid, mountainous areas and need the right humidity levels to survive.
Some chams just do not drink enough unless misted continuously for 5 minutes or so.


Supplements for montane species of chams is different than for most other types of chams.
Montane chams are more sensitive to supplements, so their supplement schedule is different than for Veileds and Panthers.
I see no indication that he has been getting a multivitamin supplement.
Dusting feeders with a multivitamin 1x a month is recommended for montane species
Dusting feeders with Calcium with D3 only 1x a month is also recommended for montanes
Calcium without D3 can be used several times a week.
Many montane chams are rather shy---and all chams appreciate plenty of foliage to hide amongst.
I have no idea how large the Pothos plant he has is, but he might appreciate a second plant now that he is larger.

I hope your cham gets treated asap and makes a recovery from whatever is ailing him.
 
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